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Old 08-07-2014, 11:49 AM
 
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This is from the American Journal of Medicine:



Is your memory that short? That's the same people from the Harvard study.
And you linked to it.


I'd take the information published in a peer-reviewed medical journal over National Review
(who are about as credible as the National Enquirer) any day.
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Old 08-07-2014, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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They decided to bring the two American doctors HERE for the treatment of Ebola.

Why?
Because they are Americans.

Did you notice that they airlifted the Spanish doctor back to...Spain?
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Old 08-07-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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we rank last because we the USA does not offer free healthcare to everyone and tax that crap out of everyone else to fund that system.

we are last because the USA is not a socialist country like every other free healthcare country is.
You rank last because you have no freak'n idea about what you're talking about but are very adept at drinking that Koolade your Medical establishment and big pharma force feed you through the bought and paid for shills you like to refer to as your 'elected representatives'.

You're taxed nearly as much as other countries providing healthcare and if not, it's nowhere near different enough to justify your insane insurance costs to give yourselves even a portion of the care offered universally elsewhere.

Now as to your idiotic socialist comment coming as it were from someone living in a country that provides multi-generational welfare from cradle to grave, EBT and food stamps, or some other food assistance based welfare, to fully 50% of your population, subsidized housing, free cel-phone minutes for baby mommas with multiple kiddies from multiple daddies just to name a few of a very loooong list making your comment kinda oxymoronic in the extreme.

Cripes! You better do a minute or two with Google to narrow down your definition of socialism to a pertinent list, as by using your markers; 50% of you not being capable of feeding yourselves without some form of gummint help, says you're leading the feck'n socialist parade.
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Old 08-07-2014, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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You rank last because you have no freak'n idea about what you're talking about but are very adept at drinking that Koolade your Medical establishment and big pharma force feed you through the bought and paid for shills you like to refer to as your 'elected representatives'.

You're taxed nearly as much as other countries providing healthcare and if not, it's nowhere near different enough to justify your insane insurance costs to give yourselves even a portion of the care offered universally elsewhere.

Now as to your idiotic socialist comment coming as it were from someone living in a country that provides multi-generational welfare from cradle to grave, EBT and food stamps, or some other food assistance based welfare, to fully 50% of your population, subsidized housing, free cel-phone minutes for baby mommas with multiple kiddies from multiple daddies just to name a few of a very loooong list making your comment kinda oxymoronic in the extreme.

Cripes! You better do a minute or two with Google to narrow down your definition of socialism to a pertinent list, as by using your markers; 50% of you not being capable of feeding yourselves without some form of gummint help, says you're leading the feck'n socialist parade.
Ooooh, nicely done!!



Now they're going to whine that Canadians have no business posting here. It's all they've got.
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Old 08-07-2014, 12:54 PM
 
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What the hell is free healthcare? I never heard of free healthcare.
What a foolish talking point. You know exactly what everyone means by this. But just in case you are ignorant of the meaning let me define it for you.

Free healthcare is where the healthcare is provided at no direct cost to the person using it beyond at most a small copay, and is instead paid indirectly by the collection of taxes upon a group of citizens.

thus its "free" at the time of service, and paid for via a separate transfer of funds-most often via taxes.
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Old 08-07-2014, 12:58 PM
 
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Ooooh, nicely done!!



Now they're going to whine that Canadians have no business posting here. It's all they've got.
Canadians have no business posting here, they're making fun of us, and kicking us while we are down.

They even taunt us at sports games by chanting "we've got healthcare!"

Quit shaming us. We know! (well some of us, the rest just ignore those inconvenient facts)
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Old 08-07-2014, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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What a foolish talking point. You know exactly what everyone means by this. But just in case you are ignorant of the meaning let me define it for you.

Free healthcare is where the healthcare is provided at no direct cost to the person using it beyond at most a small copay, and is instead paid indirectly by the collection of taxes upon a group of citizens.

thus its "free" at the time of service, and paid for via a separate transfer of funds-most often via taxes.
Whether I pay for it at the point of service, or through taxes, it's still not "free". I even pay a healthcare premium when I file my taxes.
Perhaps you should look up the meaning of "free". Let me define it for you.

adverb

adverb: free
  1. 1.
    without cost or payment.
    "ladies were admitted free"
    synonyms:without charge, free of charge, for nothing;





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Old 08-07-2014, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Canadians have no business posting here, they're making fun of us, and kicking us while we are down.

They even taunt us at sports games by chanting "we've got healthcare!"

Quit shaming us. We know! (well some of us, the rest just ignore those inconvenient facts)
Lol!
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Old 08-07-2014, 01:09 PM
 
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What a foolish talking point. You know exactly what everyone means by this. But just in case you are ignorant of the meaning let me define it for you.

Free healthcare is where the healthcare is provided at no direct cost to the person using it beyond at most a small copay, and is instead paid indirectly by the collection of taxes upon a group of citizens.

thus its "free" at the time of service, and paid for via a separate transfer of funds-most often via taxes.
Which no one other than Americans refer to as "free" when all those other countries voted for and agree with that provision with the understanding they are paying for it through taxation.

ONLY Americans refer to "free healthcare" in describing a universal or national provision of systems. Rather moronic of you when ALL others enacted it knowing it wasn't free.

The use of the term FREE to describe the provision of a universal or national healthcare system is the very epitome of a "foolish talking point" when no other nation or country having it refers to it thusly.

It's all good though; we understand your complete misunderstanding of universal healthcare as opposed to welfare, EBT cards, Food stamps, highways systems, schooling, your VA healthcare, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, among a host of other taxation based provisions you all enjoy.
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Old 08-07-2014, 01:13 PM
 
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Cripes! You better do a minute or two with Google to narrow down your definition of socialism to a pertinent list, as by using your markers; 50% of you not being capable of feeding yourselves without some form of gummint help, says you're leading the feck'n socialist parade.
No we aren't.

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