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News to me, too. If Democrats were pro-vouchers, all inner-city kids would be able to use them. Fact is, though, that they can't. They're trapped in their crappy public schools. By Democrats.
Milwaukee has been a Democrat strong hold for 50 years. It has had a school voucher program for low income students for nearly half those years. Outcomes seem to be a mixed bag, depending on who is reporting. Generally speaking, those who are voucher enrolled in private schools have higher reading scores than their public school counterparts. Math scores are not as good as the public schools.
The governor is a huge advocate because the voucher costs the state less than the public school. Then again, the private schools are not required to have special ed, music, art or PE. Until recently, the teachers at private schools that accept vouchers, were not required to be licensed, educated or certified. Recent changes now require an undergraduate degree, not necessarily in the subject they teach.
For the life of me I do not understand why, despite the noise and funding from conservative sources, the red states have not jumped on the voucher bandwagon. Is it possible there is more to the topic than conservatives vs liberals? Or maybe it's just easier to blame liberals than getting to the root causes.
Don't even bother. It's clear you have NO idea of which you speak.
You really are not that informed. Lol
New York is a huge school system filled with a lot of wealthy people. The average includes those extremely wealthy school districts.
So is that your big point that if you take the average of all the schools both poor and not poor that proves that inner city schools get the most spending? Lolol.
For the life of me I do not understand why, despite the noise and funding from conservative sources, the red states have not jumped on the voucher bandwagon.
It is, in a nutshell, a cultural problem, not a finance problem, not a race problem, not a teacher problem, not a spending problem, not a lack of resources problem. It is a cultural problem, period.
News to me, too. If Democrats were pro-vouchers, all inner-city kids would be able to use them. Fact is, though, that they can't. They're trapped in their crappy public schools. By Democrats.
Putting inner city kids in a good school in the suburbs is NOT the solution. I experienced the METCO program in MA and it doesn't work. If those kids don't care to learn about math and science, then no matter where you put them, they are still just going to fail. Inner city kids have no desire to be geeks and have no respect for their teachers. If their school buildings look like crap, it's because the students are vandalizing them and tagging them with graffiti.
And what about all the inner city teachers who have been physically assaulted by their students? What a bunch of ungrateful savages! It reminds of what's going in in Africa withe the ebola epidemic, and the villages attacking the health workers because they blame them for bringing in the virus.
Frank Burd and Ed Klein are Philadelphia public school teachers who were attacked on the job. Both Burd, a math teacher, and Klein, a music teacher, talk about the difficulties of teaching in inner city schools.
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Look anyone who is serious about getting more children better educations us serious about ending residential segregation in the basis of income and race.
Ending residential segregation? How are you going to accomplish that? And what is your vision? Sticking a public housing projects in the middle of nice neighborhoods?
It is, in a nutshell, a cultural problem, not a finance problem, not a race problem, not a teacher problem, not a spending problem, not a lack of resources problem. It is a cultural problem, period.
But we promote multiculturalism.
So if people come here with a culture that doesn't promote educating their children then we need to just accept that fact.
Because that is what is showing up in test scores all over the nation.
Schools cannot "solve the problem" and the sooner people realize that the better.
The "problems" start in the home.
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