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Old 08-20-2014, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:17 PM
 
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sick.!!! this is what happens when the USA try's to created a democracy in a barbaric society..
you dont honestly believe that cheney and co were motivated by a desire to bring democrocy to iraq , did you ?

russia isnt ready for europan and american style democrocy , let alone anywhere in the mid east
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:19 PM
 
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They are no different than the Nazis reference to Jews and need to be eliminated from this earth. We hung anyone who murdered Jews after WWII. Obama needs to stepup.We already know from Bosnia that Europe is unlikely to act.
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:21 PM
 
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The US as it is currently governed would not win, because it lacks the sheer guts to do what is necessary to actually win. That means a scorched earth policy, including the execution of the mullahs advocating for Islamists. It would mean overthrowing the Saudi government as it supports the Islamist extremists. Same with Qatar, Yemen, etc.

Total depopulation of some areas.

The reason is that we are fighting a religious belief system, not a political system. And our government seems incapable of admitting this.

The only way to win is through TOTAL WAR. And the US won't take this step. At least not yet.
It's not our place to do ANY of those things.

The United States has no business fighting a total war in the Middle East.
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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We'll remember you said that, next time you need our help.
Help with your natural disasters, help with your stranded passengers after a terrorist attack, help you get your Apollo astronauts back down to earth, and last but not least......help you rescue hostages in the Middle East. If it wasn't for the incredible bravery of Canadians, those American hostages in Iran would have been killed.
No help for you!!!


So it's like that?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07oVR1SDi6k
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:42 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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These people have gone all the way back to the medieval times.
And beheading was considered the more humane of their tortures.
You are so very correct. Voice of reason NOT, when you are dealing with EVIL!

Pure damn evil nothing else to call it.

There is only way to deal with evil. A backwards barbaric people who will never change their ways.

A part of me says we should not get involved. Seeing pictures of innocent babies and small children murdered, gets to the soul of a Parent. It is sickening, and disgusting, that a people could do this, and not shed a tear. These are people who have no soul, are pure evil thru and thru. The human part of me, wants to scream, and wants it all to stop. Innocent people should not have to endure what these people are anywhere in this world.

I will tell you this, seeing those pictures of innocent kids being slaughtered, and heads cut off, gets to the core of a person and who they are, if they do not care., what is wrong with them. I do not trust those people as far as I could throw their azz, they are not done with us either. Mark my words.
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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wow, guess you have no idea who I am

I am a 911 survivor...am a 25 year army veteran, with combat tours in Panama, Desert storm, Bosnia, 3 tours in Iraq, and one in Afghanistan....and am CURRENLTLY in Afghanistan as a army civilian transportation consultant for redeploying troops and equipment back to the usa...... be there done that, have the t-shirt......what have you done for your country???
Thank you for your service.

Haven't your brothers and sisters sacrificed enough for the sake of the people in the Middle East? How long do you want to keep fighting and dying to protect them?
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Old 08-20-2014, 05:57 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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This seems to be the whole point that supporters of the U.S. going back in seem to be missing....even if we went back in we'd accomplish nothing. We can't defeat ISIS no matter what we do. Our multi-hundred billion dollar defense budgets are useless in this matter.

Found this excerpt in a piece in the New Statesman that describes the situation perfectly perfectly:



The piece basically explains why it's futile for us to get on the ground there.

The link...New Statesman | The US and the UK can
Russia doesn't like them.
China doesn't like them.
We don't like them.

If all three nations joined together, which is how it will likely go, they don't stand a chance.
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Old 08-20-2014, 06:04 PM
 
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americans should be grateful to putin - russia for holding firm on any possible invasion of syria so as to oust assad , otherwise ISIS would most likely be in complete control of syria

assad should be fully backed by the west in order to defeat ISIS
Many believe that the Assad regime has cynically used ISIS to help fight the other less militant Syrian rebel groups(who've been decimated by ISIS). And it sort of helps him turn the tide of outside opinion in his favor--no one wants to support any Syrian rebels with the outrage over what ISIS is doing.

How Syria’s Assad Helped Forge ISIS

Assad's fatal strategic mistakes - Opinion - Al Jazeera English
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Old 08-20-2014, 06:17 PM
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Location: Suburban Dallas
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Why not go after ISIS?? Sure, we can defeat them. This is supposed to be America, the world's most powerful nation. We'd better go after them. Meanwhile, leftist defeatists would rather we lose in Iraq while their so-called "leader" plays another 9 holes.
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