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I suppose you could call me a libertarian but I consider real libertarianism to be something quite different than the left/right wing stuff. In my opinion a libertarian puts personal liberty ahead of government and the business community. In essence, there's no such thing as a corporate libertarian if you ask me! Furthermore both the left and right tend to be often clones of each other. To me both the Tea Party and OWS are basically the same movement: "we're mad because Wall Street sold us crap and we want our $$$$ back!" (even though they knew it was a turd they were buying, LOL) If either group seized power they might decide to make the prepper lifestyle a bit harder.
To me both the Tea Party and OWS are basically the same movement: "we're mad because Wall Street sold us crap and we want our $$$$ back!" (even though they knew it was a turd they were buying, LOL) If either group seized power they might decide to make the prepper lifestyle a bit harder.
I think you have grossly misunderstood what either Tea Party or OWS stand for.
Many times people are peons in other people's games. He who has the capability or leverage to change things at a high level, has much more understanding of the pieces of the puzzle than someone who is a piece in the puzzle themselves, no? Think of it this way, you can be a bus factory owner, bus designer/engineer or a bus driver. As a driver you cannot be expected to understand the reasons behind why an engineer did something he did with a certain part or why the owner of the factory made a certain business decision. To liken this to your example, with the information you had as a mortgage borrower, you decision field was limited compared to the guy at JPM or whatever packaging bad securities with good ones, over-leveraging the firm etc. You have no way of knowing what is going on at the Bank when you sign the papers.
Think of the farmers plowing the plains before the Dust Bowl happened.
I used to be a sworn centrist, but lately, a lot of the stuff I've been hearing from the right has been pushing me further to the left. The democrats are very flawed, but at least you don't see them going on about how teachers are overpaid, not all rape is "legitimate", and how only people like them are "real Americans." And the vast majority of the bigoted and hateful comments I see online every day are from right-wingers.
And it's not even the presence of the extremists in the GOP so much as the way moderate conservatives seem to be just standing back and letting them take it over.
That doesn't mean I approve of Tumblr warriors or people like Cynthia McKinney, though. I'm still pretty moderate.
I disagree. While there are genuine "moderates", given a litmus test of major social and fiscals issues, most people will come out on one side or the other.
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Of course you'll come out on one side or the other when all is said and done. It's actually thinking of yourself on one side or the other that limits free thought.
Similar to what one poster has already said, I consider myself a fiscal conservative and a social moderate. I call myself a social moderate because I support gay marriage, but I am against things such as abortion and gun control. I believe in the maximum amount of freedom, and the Republicans (and possibly Libertarians in the future) offer that; the only thing that the Democrats offer is less gun rights, socialized medicine, political correctness, and putting the blame on Bush even though Obama has held the office for more than six and a half years.
Neither, I believe in logic. Conservatives and Liberals do not coincide with reality. They are nothing but philosophies with a fixed set of principles to follow.
I do what I think is necessary based on my own experience and knowledge.
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Of course you'll come out on one side or the other when all is said and done. It's actually thinking of yourself on one side or the other that limits free thought.
I think the point is that very few people, who are not career politicians, will come out firmly on one side of the aisle in every issue.
For example, for myself, I am very anti-gun-control but am also very pro-environment. In the current political scheme, those two views are opposing along party lines. Therefore, I either change my views in order to fit into a neat, little political mold - or I continue to have my own rational opinions, and consider myself a moderate. I consider myself a right-leaning moderate, but will never consider myself a Republican.
I think for the most part, like me, most people are also in somewhere in the middle of the hard-and-fast, semi-concocted, black-and-white viewpoints of either party in today's political landscape.
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