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Old 08-11-2014, 03:23 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Neo Cons are right of center, so they, by definition, cant be leftist. Left of you does not equal leftist.

notice you didnt respond to my earlier post.

They are statist, by default that can not be on our side.

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Criminals dont seek out gun free zones thats why.

Name a mass shooting where the gunman said he went there because it was gun free ?

kids shoot up their schools because they dont like the school.

workers shoot up their jobs because they dont like their jobs.

the fact that they are gun free is just a coincidence.
They have all with the exception of the Tuscon event all been inside of gun free zones..Are you going to tell me that was not a factor in the their method of target selection?

It is not coincidence it is killers looking for a place were they can rack up a body count and predate at will uncontested.

Did James Holmes pick the movie theater that was closet to his apartment? No.

Did he pick the movie theater that was the biggest in the state and housed the most people and therefore more victims? No.

He picked the only one that was a Gun Free Zone...

That is a fact and nothing you say changes it.
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Old 08-11-2014, 09:08 AM
 
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Criminals dont seek out gun free zones thats why.


Name a mass shooting where the gunman said he went there because it was gun free ?
Mass shooters don't usually say much after they kill themselves or are shot by cops.
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:03 AM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 23 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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They are statist, by default that can not be on our side.
Statism is a very vague term and even so, does not have a "side", They are yours as you described them as neo cons.



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They have all with the exception of the Tuscon event all been inside of gun free zones..Are you going to tell me that was not a factor in the their method of target selection?

It is not coincidence it is killers looking for a place were they can rack up a body count and predate at will uncontested.

Did James Holmes pick the movie theater that was closet to his apartment? No.

Did he pick the movie theater that was the biggest in the state and housed the most people and therefore more victims? No.

He picked the only one that was a Gun Free Zone...

That is a fact and nothing you say changes it.
LMFAO ROTF.

I have no idea why he picked the Aurora theater, but neither do you. He never released his reasoning for why he went to that specific theater.

Instead of actually supplying facts to back up your argument, you instead argue your opinion as fact.

I know you are for getting rid of gun free zones, and I honestly have no problem with that, but you could make that case without lying.

You have no evidence to support your claim that any of the mass shooting locations were selected because they were gun free zones.
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:04 AM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 23 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Mass shooters don't usually say much after they kill themselves or are shot by cops.
so as I said, no one can actually back up the claim they are arguing.
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:19 AM
 
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Strawman.

"Gun free zones" are irrelevant. The problem is gun accessibility, not gun prohibitions. Mandate universal background and psychological checks. Ban military grade weapons.

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The problem is people not putting a value on human life, not accessibility. It is harder to get a firearm now then it was 20, 30, 40 years ago. I don't think there is a ban, but getting a rocket launcher , mini gun or tank is pretty tough and expensive so I don't think we have to worry about those military grade weapons.
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:24 AM
 
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Citizens don't need military weapons. If a citizen wants to shoot a military weapon, he/she should enlist in the military. Then their military weapon will be safely stored in a military armory.
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:36 AM
 
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Citizens don't need military weapons. If a citizen wants to shoot a military weapon, he/she should enlist in the military. Then their military weapon will be safely stored in a military armory.
I agree, tanks would be more of a hindrance than anything. rocket launchers and things like that would be hard to carry concealed and who could afford the JP-1 that a fighter or helicopter sucks up and a full auto rifle , while cool is just so expensive to shoot with today's ammo prices.

I'll stick to my semi auto rifles , shotguns and handguns.
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Old 08-11-2014, 11:22 AM
 
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Citizens don't need military weapons. If a citizen wants to shoot a military weapon, he/she should enlist in the military. Then their military weapon will be safely stored in a military armory.
Which one is available for sales?
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Old 08-11-2014, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Criminals dont seek out gun free zones thats why.


Name a mass shooting where the gunman said he went there because it was gun free ?

kids shoot up their schools because they dont like the school.

workers shoot up their jobs because they dont like their jobs.

the fact that they are gun free is just a coincidence.
Really?

Then I wonder why there are never mass shootings at police stations?
I mean by your logic that's where all the shootings should be since criminals hate cops right?
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Old 08-11-2014, 12:19 PM
 
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Really?

Then I wonder why there are never mass shootings at police stations?
I mean by your logic that's where all the shootings should be since criminals hate cops right?
To be fair, not sure about police stations, but there have been plenty of mass shootings at court houses. The thing is they usually ended pretty quickly as armed guards would shoot them down.
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