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Do some of you have mental disorders? Have you not friggin learned to stop the stupid allegations until more of what ACTUALLY happened is learned? There may be a chance you are right. But you get no kudos for that. You sit there and act like you know it all, when you don't know any more than any other citizen.
So no, it is NOT "all pretty clear" now. They are still doing an investigation. Unless you were there, you don't know a damn thing.
I still find it suspect that there is no cell phone video. People whip out theor phones all the time when cops are involved. Hell, they whip them out to take video of the dumbest things and post them all over YouTube. But, this, no not this incident where video could have proven helpful.
That was the first thing I thought of as well.
Youtube is full of them. There's several of the cops choking that guy in NYC.
Strange how there are eyewitnesses and not one video to back them up.
I still find it suspect that there is no cell phone video. People whip out their phones all the time when cops are involved. Hell, they whip them out to take video of the dumbest things and post them all over YouTube. But, this, no not this incident where video could have proven helpful.
I've been wondering the same thing. Something is amiss in this case.
A report I read earlier said the confrontation was shortly (something like 10 or 15 minutes) after the robbery. I'd like to read more to reconcile the timeline.
Since the cops supposedly reviewed the video prior to the confrontation with Brown, 10 to 15 minutes doesn't sound right.
Dispatch is at 11:53. Page 17 shows "shots fired" at 14:11 or 14:12 (i.e., just after 2 p.m.)
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan
Strong arm robbery is one in which there is no weapon and physical force is used instead.
If there were a gun then that is armed robbery.
Someone earlier posted the requirements for a first-degree robbery in Missouri, requirements which do not appear to be met.
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No it didn't. It was minutes before. AND here he is roughing up the clerk:
See above. That is incorrect.
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Originally Posted by BubbyBobble
Well, if the witnesses stories all turn out to be accurate, the cop will be found guilty then. At least according to precedent cases.
But whether or not Brown committed a felony makes all of the difference.
Whether or not he committed a felony does not make all the difference. What makes all of the difference is what happened during the shooting.
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Where are you getting first degree robbery from ?
It was "strong arm robbery".
Correct--those responses were to the poster who listed the reqs. for 1st degree robbery.
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Originally Posted by Bulldogdad
Where in the heck did you get that. FYI Johnson is in the video getting handed the cigars by Brown.
The shooting took place within minutes of the 911 call about the robbery.
You are wrong about the timeline.
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He admitted to the federal investigators that he took the cigars. That makes him an accomplice subject to prosecution.
Not necessarily. It probably makes him guilty of receiving stolen property, and it potentially makes him an accomplice in the robbery. It depends.
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan
I read the robbery happened in the morning and the cops confronted them at noon.
Maybe they blunted up all those cigars and smoked them and were high as kites and did what they did.
Look at the police report. The robbery occurs at about 11:52. The shooting occurs at about 2:12.
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No it doesn't but it does change the entire face of the picture here doesn't it ?
Still believe it was mere jaywalking and a cold blooded assassination for no reason whatsoever ?
How can you not? He was surrendering and the cop shot him down. Theft doesn't get the death penalty and certainly not on the spot by a police officer. This was murder.
That was the first thing I thought of as well.
Youtube is full of them. There's several of the cops choking that guy in NYC.
Strange how there are eyewitnesses and not one video to back them up.
Is your first response to gunfire to take out your cell phones and take video? I would probably take cover. And there are a few more people on the street in NYC than there are in Ferguson.
Still doesn't excuse the cops for shooting an unarmed person (especially when giving up). It doesn't excuse them for leaving the body on the street for 4 hours. It doesn't excuse them for having their snipers pointing at the people who were protesting. It doesn't excuse them for ignoring the 1st Amendment of the Constitution and arrested two journalists and shooting tear gas & rubber bullets at a TV camera crew & journalist. The kid was a dumb ass thug, but that doesn't excuse them. The ramifications of this incident go beyond his petty theft.
We don't even know if that happened. If the only person who saw it was his thieving buddy, well this case is pretty much over.
Dispatch is at 11:53. Page 17 shows "shots fired" at 14:11 or 14:12 (i.e., just after 2 p.m.)
Someone earlier posted the requirements for a first-degree robbery in Missouri, requirements which do not appear to be met.
See above. That is incorrect.
Whether or not he committed a felony does not make all the difference. What makes all of the difference is what happened during the shooting.
Correct--those responses were to the poster who listed the reqs. for 1st degree robbery.
You are wrong about the timeline.
Not necessarily. It probably makes him guilty of receiving stolen property, and it potentially makes him an accomplice in the robbery. It depends.
Look at the police report. The robbery occurs at about 11:52. The shooting occurs at about 2:12.
Did you watch the video? He hands him the cigars in the store. He's a compromised witness but he won't be charged.
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