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I am think Heller does help us. After all it protects weapons in common usage and it machines have been around since the 1890s..I mean if it was not for the Hughes Amendment they would be far more common if not for it.
I am think Heller does help us. After all it protects weapons in common usage and it machines have been around since the 1890s..I mean if it was not for the Hughes Amendment they would be far more common if not for it.
Any idea around this catch 22?
I do not see, where we the people, authorize them the government, to tell us what arms we can bear.....
All I see is where it says, you try and take them, they will be used to keep them from being taken.
What is the difference between a semi-automatic rifle and a fully automatic rifle, besides the rate of fire; not much. I know that there are fully automatic weapons that can fire above 600 rounds per minute. But for sake of basic math, a weapon that is capable of firing 600 rounds per minute = 10 rounds per second or 1 round every tenth of a second. That is impressive but a good shooter with a fast trigger can do almost the same thing with a semi-automatic weapon. I am by no means a fast shooter, but I can do 3 - 4 rounds per second. Now you take someone like Jerry Miculek and OMG he is almost as fast as a machinegun with a semi-automatic weapon. I have seen video's of him with a .45 ACP and a 10 round magazine, Jerry Miculek can put all 10 rounds on the same 6" target in just over 1 second. and he can shoot almost as fast with a revolver or shotgun as well.
There was an episode of American Guns for a young cowboy shooter had a lever action rifle custom built, this was one of the best shooters in the world at the time, this young many did a head to head competition with one of the gunsmiths, 9 targets side by side, the gunsmith used a 9 millimeter machinegun, and the kid used his new lever action rifle, the kid won, out shout the machinegun. That just goes to show you practice, practice, practice.
As far as owning a fully automatic machine gun it would be nice, but my biggest problem is, if I can walk in to a gun store, have a background check performed, in this case show 3 forms of identification and leave with a so call "Assault Rifle"; being a semi-automatic version of the military rifle, without paying a $200 tax stamp, and local law enforcement does not need to be contacted, what is the difference with a fully automatic rifle? With the only difference being I can go through a magazine in 7 seconds for the semi-automatic rifle, instead of 3 - 4 seconds with the fully automatic rifle.
What is the difference between a semi-automatic rifle and a fully automatic rifle, besides the rate of fire; not much. I know that there are fully automatic weapons that can fire above 600 rounds per minute. But for sake of basic math, a weapon that is capable of firing 600 rounds per minute = 10 rounds per second or 1 round every tenth of a second. That is impressive but a good shooter with a fast trigger can do almost the same thing with a semi-automatic weapon. I am by no means a fast shooter, but I can do 3 - 4 rounds per second. Now you take someone like Jerry Miculek and OMG he is almost as fast as a machinegun with a semi-automatic weapon. I have seen video's of him with a .45 ACP and a 10 round magazine, Jerry Miculek can put all 10 rounds on the same 6" target in just over 1 second. and he can shoot almost as fast with a revolver or shotgun as well.
There was an episode of American Guns for a young cowboy shooter had a lever action rifle custom built, this was one of the best shooters in the world at the time, this young many did a head to head competition with one of the gunsmiths, 9 targets side by side, the gunsmith used a 9 millimeter machinegun, and the kid used his new lever action rifle, the kid won, out shout the machinegun. That just goes to show you practice, practice, practice.
As far as owning a fully automatic machine gun it would be nice, but my biggest problem is, if I can walk in to a gun store, have a background check performed, in this case show 3 forms of identification and leave with a so call "Assault Rifle"; being a semi-automatic version of the military rifle, without paying a $200 tax stamp, and local law enforcement does not need to be contacted, what is the difference with a fully automatic rifle? With the only difference being I can go through a magazine in 7 seconds for the semi-automatic rifle, instead of 3 - 4 seconds with the fully automatic rifle.
Baby steps kiddo, baby steps. We will get back to that state of freedom it just takes timing, money and iron will to defend liberty.
I can not wait for for new select fires to be for sell.
I mean a select fire belt fed AR15 and a select fire Glock with a 3 round burst with a .22LR kit. Suppressors for both.
My best friend is one of those people with a really fast trigger finger, I have watched him dump 8 rounds of 00 Buck shot out of my semi-automatic Benelli M1 in under 2 seconds. He had fired it so fast, I thought he had only fired 4 rounds, instead of all 8, but the shotgun was empty. I watched a video of a gunsmith hear in Virginia empty a 25 round drum with a Saiga 12 guage in about 6.5 seconds, there are many fast shooters out there. And these are all weapons that are semi-automatic, not needing any tax stamp, and not needing CLEO to sign off on it.
Baby steps kiddo, baby steps. We will get back to that state of freedom it just takes timing, money and iron will to defend liberty.
I can not wait for for new select fires to be for sell.
I mean a select fire belt fed AR15 and a select fire Glock with a 3 round burst with a .22LR kit. Suppressors for both.
How about the 10-22 Gatling gun kit?
Impressive.
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Ok let’s get back on topic
