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Old 12-23-2007, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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Originally Posted by JVTX72 View Post
George Bush Jr will go down through history as a great American President???? Dude, pass me whatever it is your smokin!
I heard that, friend. They must be smokin some of that exotic stuff.

 
Old 12-23-2007, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Land of 10000 Lakes + some
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The OP just wanted to stir things up.
 
Old 12-23-2007, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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And for a good reason too . They know that bush jr is an idiot and so are most, scratch that, all of his cabinet.
 
Old 12-24-2007, 09:59 AM
 
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It's quite possible.

Remember, the people who will ultimately assess Bush's place in history are maybe just now being born, and some of them aren't even here yet.

And then there's always the possibility that his legacy could be revisited in future times by their grandchildren.

To us, Bush is not history; he is current news.

As a current president? He's been better than average. Maybe not great, but far above mediocre. In my own view, he's been quite a mixed bag.

Domestically we've got a bigger, nosier, less efficient, more intrusive government. More socialist giveaways, less freedom.

Largely by inaction, he has facilitated the invasion of our homeland by millions of lawbreaking foreign poachers from south of our border, who have no right to be here.

He was right to cut taxes, but he then frittered away a perfect opportunity (6 years of a bicameral GOP Congress) to also cut government spending as well.

So on domestic policy, he has mostly failed. But he sure got the Democrats to like him and appreciate him... </sarcasm>

In judicial affairs, he has given us two brilliant, Constitution-respecting jurists as Supreme Court justices. His other federal judiciary appointments have been strong, too. Not a moment too soon.

It is in foreign policy where the Bush legacy is brightest. 50 million people are now free from tyranny in Iraq and Afghanistan, building the basis of freedom in a historically un-free part of the world. He has also stood firm for U.S. interests against UN globocrats on several occasions, most notably Kyoto.

Best of all, Bush rallied the country after 9/11 and made us feel unified and proud. It was a pinnacled moment of his presidency. No less impressive is that he's prevented any further attacks on U.S. soil in the 6+ years since. I like a president who can do that!

Just some random thoughts. I'm content to leave the rest to future historians.
 
Old 12-24-2007, 11:30 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Best of all, Bush rallied the country after 9/11 and made us feel unified and proud. It was a pinnacled moment of his presidency. No less impressive is that he's prevented any further attacks on U.S. soil in the 6+ years since. I like a president who can do that!

Just some random thoughts. I'm content to leave the rest to future historians.


If he is to be labeled as a great protector two questions must be asked:


1) Why did he fail to protect us on 9/11?

2) Why was this protective ability he allegedly has not extended to our allies in the so-called 'Coalition of the Willing'?
 
Old 12-24-2007, 12:00 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Originally Posted by LancasterNative View Post
It's quite possible.

Remember, the people who will ultimately assess Bush's place in history are maybe just now being born, and some of them aren't even here yet.

And then there's always the possibility that his legacy could be revisited in future times by their grandchildren.

To us, Bush is not history; he is current news.

As a current president? He's been better than average. Maybe not great, but far above mediocre. In my own view, he's been quite a mixed bag.

Domestically we've got a bigger, nosier, less efficient, more intrusive government. More socialist giveaways, less freedom.

Largely by inaction, he has facilitated the invasion of our homeland by millions of lawbreaking foreign poachers from south of our border, who have no right to be here.

He was right to cut taxes, but he then frittered away a perfect opportunity (6 years of a bicameral GOP Congress) to also cut government spending as well.

So on domestic policy, he has mostly failed. But he sure got the Democrats to like him and appreciate him... </sarcasm>

In judicial affairs, he has given us two brilliant, Constitution-respecting jurists as Supreme Court justices. His other federal judiciary appointments have been strong, too. Not a moment too soon.

It is in foreign policy where the Bush legacy is brightest. 50 million people are now free from tyranny in Iraq and Afghanistan, building the basis of freedom in a historically un-free part of the world. He has also stood firm for U.S. interests against UN globocrats on several occasions, most notably Kyoto.

Best of all, Bush rallied the country after 9/11 and made us feel unified and proud. It was a pinnacled moment of his presidency. No less impressive is that he's prevented any further attacks on U.S. soil in the 6+ years since. I like a president who can do that!

Just some random thoughts. I'm content to leave the rest to future historians.

why should the average american care about freeing the people in iraq and afghanistan when our own baby boomer ganeration is concerned with how the gov't will fund the promise of social security and medicare in our retirement years? the US cannot get involved with every internal conflict in every 2 bit foreign country. menawhile, it has cost trillions of $$ that could have been used for lowering taxes, strengthening social security and medicare for the middle class. as usual, bush never disagrees with more ways to waste the taxpayers' $$$. 20-30 years from now, historians will look at bush as a wasteful foolhappy spender who squandered the wealth of american taxpayers for his own personal gain, no different than the presidents of mexico and bush sr who set up the wealth "machine" for their post-office benefit. btw, i'm still waiting on that cheap gas that he promised us when stability in iraq was achieved.
 
Old 12-24-2007, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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Tell us you are kidding. That is not a funny joke. Tell your tale to the 5000 Americans killed for nothing, NOTHING, with their blood on your dictators hands. Tell your tale to the million or so others he killed with some one elses hands over in far away lands. Go ahead tell them all. Many of or lost men have memorial web sites you can post on. Go and post your tripe about your hero bush (not capitalized due to zero respect) why he is so great.

It makes me sick that this thread was even allowed to continue. Screw free speech. Saying what you did is disgusting and an insult to America.
 
Old 12-24-2007, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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The nice thing about this country is. We the Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airmen know what freedom truly is all about. Why you may ask? Because we were and are the ones who are willing to stand our post and say "Not On My Watch". And we are the one that were willing to lay down our lives so that all Americans can exercise thier Constitutional Right to Freedom of Speach. So go ahead and say what you want too, I am.

General Douglas Mc once spoke at West Piont saying "No one prays for peace as much as the soldier".

bush is an idiot! And I still don't care what happens in another country, Just don't let them start raising a fuss in my neck of the woods.
 
Old 12-24-2007, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Maine
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There is very little doubt in my mind that George W. Bush will be remembered as the worst President in US history,
Not even close. He isn't nearly as bad as Carter or Klinton.
 
Old 12-24-2007, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Originally Posted by burdell View Post
If he is to be labeled as a great protector two questions must be asked:


1) Why did he fail to protect us on 9/11?

2) Why was this protective ability he allegedly has not extended to our allies in the so-called 'Coalition of the Willing'?
OK, this is obviously someone who is not educated. It was Klinton who failed to protect us on 9/11. It was the Klinton administration who gutted the military and intelligence budgets so we didn't have any intelligence against Al Qaeda. It was Klinton who failed to act when the World Trade Center was bombed the first time. It was Klinton who failed to act when the Marines barracks were attacked, it was Klinton who failed to act when the Cole was bombed.

Bush had the courage to fight a real war on terror and because of this war we have the terrorists on the run in Iraq and Afghanistan instead of bombing more buildings in the USA.

Now I am not a big fan with everything Bush had done. I think the worst thing he did was give money to the oil companies who are gouging us. But because of the tax cuts he gave everyone the economy is better then anyone could have predicted. Now that the Democrats in Congress are raising taxes the economy is starting to fall apart. If Hillary or Obama become President I will guarantee you will see the real worst President in the history because not only will Al Qaeda have a free reign to attack the USA but by the time they pass all their tax increases and new entitlement programs we will be in a depression for the next 50 years.
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