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Old 08-16-2014, 01:17 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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Another BS of the informative war. And looks like nobody here has brain to see that themselves.
First of all, it would have been pointless for russians to act like this.
Secondly, Ukrainian military can't resist Russian army at all. Russians can destroy all ukrainian military forces in a few hours. So, it looks like propaganda for the ignorant philistines.
Thirdly, if Russia would really have wanted to invade Ukraine then Russia would have done it much earlier and in a smart manner.
But Russians won't do that as they have no any intention to invade Ukraine. Such delusional fantasy lives only in minds of western warmongers, NATO' commanders and dishonourable western politicians. And with the help of the controlled "independent media" they could convince the public in this falsed idea. And it was done easy. Because their lies nicely fitted with anti-russian hysteria.

You can call me putinist, pro-kremlin, commie or whatever, but I am definitely not an idiot who swallows such BS like a favourite cake.
Wow, we can only grovel before your superior intellect, musiquim. I'll bet you think that MH17 was shot down by Ukrainian Nazis, don't you? And that the Russian buildup of 20,000 troops with heavy armor at the border shooting occasional artillery shells into Ukraine is to make peace, huh? Tell us about how Putin wants to welcome eastern Ukraine back into Mother Russia's loving arms where it belongs, regardless of what most of the inhabitants want.
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Old 08-16-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Putin's humanitarian convoy turned out to be nothing but a bunch of military trucks that were painted white. Most were empty.

He's not ever going to do Ukraine any favors.
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Old 08-16-2014, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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Wow, we can only grovel before your superior intellect, musiquim. I'll bet you think that MH17 was shot down by Ukrainian Nazis, don't you? And that the Russian buildup of 20,000 troops with heavy armor at the border shooting occasional artillery shells into Ukraine is to make peace, huh? Tell us about how Putin wants to welcome eastern Ukraine back into Mother Russia's loving arms where it belongs, regardless of what most of the inhabitants want.
Sorry, I really can't answer your quetions because all my words would hit the wall of bigotry.
You are totally misinformed and even don't aware of it. Yes, you can sacredly believe all the BS of the western propaganda and it is your own business. But you really don't look smart when trying to argue with people without any good argument and a real fact.
For example, you (or someone else) can't prove that russians "shooting occasional artillery shells into Ukraine", because it is blatant LIE of the western MSM that designed for the average people who can't think and analyze independently and objectively. There are special PR technologies that can convince a crowd to trust any lie. It is called the brainwashing process.
And as I already mentioned it above, all those military acts are meaningless and unreasonable for russians. Strategically, tactically, militarily, politically... etc.
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Old 08-16-2014, 02:29 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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Well, musiquim, I trust the words of journalists on the ground with pictures, however faulty they can be at times, over an anonymous Russian propagandist on the web.
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Old 08-16-2014, 02:40 PM
 
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Well, musiquim, I trust the words of journalists on the ground with pictures, however faulty they can be at times, over an anonymous Russian propagandist on the web.
There are alot of information by journalists around the world who gives opposite picture of the event. Why you are disregarding their info with the label "Putin's propaganda"?
So, you are just biased. And your personal trust doesn't prove that you are right.
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Old 08-16-2014, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Another BS of the informative war. And looks like nobody here has brain to see that themselves.
First of all, it would have been pointless for russians to act like this.
Secondly, Ukrainian military can't resist Russian army at all. Russians can destroy all ukrainian military forces in a few hours. So, it looks like propaganda for the ignorant philistines.
Thirdly, if Russia would really have wanted to invade Ukraine then Russia would have done it much earlier and in a smart manner.
But Russians won't do that as they have no any intention to invade Ukraine. Such delusional fantasy lives only in minds of western warmongers, NATO' commanders and dishonourable western politicians. And with the help of the controlled "independent media" they could convince the public in this falsed idea. And it was done easy. Because their lies nicely fitted with anti-russian hysteria.

You can call me putinist, pro-kremlin, commie or whatever, but I am definitely not an idiot who swallows such BS like a favourite cake.
Didn't Ukraine just receive some military arms from Croatia? Wonder where Croatia got that stuff? The Croates sure know how to wheel and deal. Seems like Ukraine is gearing up for something.
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Old 08-16-2014, 04:59 PM
 
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Hey, do you know where is Croatia? May be you mean Poland?
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Old 08-16-2014, 05:01 PM
 
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sorry, i really can't answer your quetions because all my words would hit the wall of bigotry.
You are totally misinformed and even don't aware of it. Yes, you can sacredly believe all the bs of the western propaganda and it is your own business. But you really don't look smart when trying to argue with people without any good argument and a real fact.
For example, you (or someone else) can't prove that russians "shooting occasional artillery shells into ukraine", because it is blatant lie of the western msm that designed for the average people who can't think and analyze independently and objectively. There are special pr technologies that can convince a crowd to trust any lie. It is called the brainwashing process.
And as i already mentioned it above, all those military acts are meaningless and unreasonable for russians. Strategically, tactically, militarily, politically... Etc.
ты по-русски разговариваешь?
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Old 08-16-2014, 06:04 PM
 
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Sorry, I really can't answer your quetions because all my words would hit the wall of bigotry.
You are totally misinformed and even don't aware of it. Yes, you can sacredly believe all the BS of the western propaganda and it is your own business. But you really don't look smart when trying to argue with people without any good argument and a real fact.
For example, you (or someone else) can't prove that russians "shooting occasional artillery shells into Ukraine", because it is blatant LIE of the western MSM that designed for the average people who can't think and analyze independently and objectively. There are special PR technologies that can convince a crowd to trust any lie. It is called the brainwashing process.
And as I already mentioned it above, all those military acts are meaningless and unreasonable for russians. Strategically, tactically, militarily, politically... etc.
Uuuh, bigotry?

Here's a thought; why is it do you think that Putin did not demand independent investigators be allowed access to the M-17 crash site? In what context do you think it would be appropriate for him to allow rebels operating with his sanction to prevent the recovery of bodies and investigation to take place of the crash site?

Enquiring minds await your indoctrinated answer.

In the history of Russia there have been more purges, outright genocide and atrocities committed in the name of it's government so as to account for millions of Russian citizens having been murdered at the behest of it's own leader/s but it's western propaganda that worries modern Russia?

Give me a freak'n break here. An ex KGB hard-case running the country and we're to believe he has nothing but the best of intentions towards the Ukrainians while amassing armour and troops along the border. Do you seriously think anyone will believe Russia is afraid of an invasion? That leaves only one valid and irrefutable conclusion ~ those troops and armour are there to perform the well known (from historical proof of past behaviour) Russian rape and pillage.

Some of us still remember Hungary and Czechoslovakia.

The world is watching and they will not ignore Russia's past behaviour as being non-indicative of tomorrow's; especially with KGB Putin in charge.
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Old 08-16-2014, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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Here's a thought; why is it do you think that Putin did not demand independent investigators be allowed access to the M-17 crash site?
What??? Are you seriously think Putin did not demand it??? Wow!!! He did it from the first minute after the tragedy. In fact, he insistently demanded it.
Guys, you are heavily brainwashed. And it is another good example of how the western propaganda is intentionally hiding the truth (or deadly silent about it) and at the same time telling its lies or misrepresenting events on purpose.
Again, there is an informative war against Russia. And Russia is loosing this war.
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