Rand Paul Has Stepped Off The Reservation-No Longer A Tea Partier (Clinton, Rockefeller)

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by Iamme73

This makes no sense.

If you supported what he said you would have simply said so, not try and make things up to make it look bad.

[Iamme73]

Originally Posted by pknopp

If you supported what he said you would have simply said so, not try and make things up to make it look bad.

I do support it. I made that clear in my posts.

I'm not making things up to make it look bad. What are you getting at?

White Americans don't believe black people face systematic racial in the criminal justice system. White Americans believe black people are more criminal. This is a fact.

If Rand Paul continues to make the opposite point which means we have to change how the system works, he will run into opposition from conservatives, who definitely believe black people are more criminal.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by Iamme73

I do support it. I made that clear in my posts.

I'm not making things up to make it look bad. What are you getting at?

White Americans don't believe black people face systematic racial in the criminal justice system. White Americans believe black people are more criminal. This is a fact.

If Rand Paul continues to make the opposite point which means we have to change how the system works, he will run into opposition from conservatives, who definitely believe black people are more criminal.

Your bigotry is noted.

[Fancy-Schmancy]

Originally Posted by pknopp

And yet, you are unable to provide anything other than your opinion. And really, not much of one there either.

What would you want from me? A video...go find it yourself. It's easy.

Paul went before the nation to filibuster about the horrors of drones killing Americans without trial...two days later he flipped.

Thems the facts. You just don't like them. And you aren't exactly bringing hard-core rebuttal. Merely saying 'that's your opinion' isn't a rebuttal.

[Iamme73]

Originally Posted by pknopp

Your bigotry is noted.

Lol, this is an irrational conclusion based on the content of my posts.

Noting that white Americans believe that black people don't face systematic racial discrimination in the criminal justice system because they believe black Americans are more criminal is objective reality based on polling data about this issue.

[steven_h]

Originally Posted by Iamme73

If Rand Paul continues to make the opposite point which means we have to change how the system works, he will run into opposition from conservatives, who definitely believe black people are more criminal.

I think you're speaking for all white people, and not doing a good job of it. If you're black, then you are speaking of your perception, and not from experience.

As for Paul... of course he's going to meet with opposition, from both sides. Both sides talk a good talk about solving issues, but when it comes right down to it... they secretly support the status quo.

Ron Paul was feared and betrayed by the RNC. There's no reason to suggest Rand will be treated any differently. If people REALLY want to make a change, I'd say Paul would serve in a bipartisan fashion more than any other candidate, at this point.


We have to start thinking of what will be good for the country, and stop worrying about whats good for either party, and these crony politicians.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by Fancy-Schmancy

What would you want from me? A video...go find it yourself. It's easy.

Paul went before the nation to filibuster about the horrors of drones killing Americans without trial...two days later he flipped.

Thems the facts. You just don't like them. And you aren't exactly bringing hard-core rebuttal. Merely saying 'that's your opinion' isn't a rebuttal.

If they were the facts, again, you would be able to provide them. I do not need to provide hard core rebuttal to baseless accusations.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by Iamme73

Lol, this is an irrational conclusion based on the content of my posts.

So we are even. Tit for tat and all of that.

[Iamme73]

Originally Posted by steven_h

I think you're speaking for all white people, and not doing a good job of it. If you're black, then you are speaking of your perception, and not from experience.

As for Paul... of course he's going to meet with opposition, from both sides. Both sides talk a good talk about solving issues, but when it comes right down to it... they secretly support the status quo.

Ron Paul was feared and betrayed by the RNC. There's no reason to suggest Rand will be treated any differently. If people REALLY want to make a change, I'd say Paul would serve in a bipartisan fashion more than any other candidate, at this point.

I'm not speaking for anyone. What I wrote about white Americans belief about black people being more criminal is reality. This statement has nothing to do with my racial identity or my experiences. It is reflective of looking at polling data and reading studies about white Americans' beliefs about black people and crime.


No on this specific issue, he will meet opposition from conservatives and the majority of white Americans who believe the opposite of what he believes.


That's why it's my contention, Rand Paul will either change his position or say he never had that position.

Understand the view that the criminal justice system racially discriminates against black people would have huge policy implications that wouldn't be popular with white Americans his base voters.

[db108108]

I agree with him completely. Last year, while cutting its budget in all areas that had to do with actual classroom teaching, my university bought a tank for its campus police force. A tank. WTF for?