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Best quote I have seen maybe ever in relation to the police state, the welfare state, and why Ferguson probably is inevitable:
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Originally Posted by Kevin D. Williamson
When life is reduced to the terms in which it is lived in the poorest and most neglected parts of Chicago or Detroit, the welfare state is the police state. Why should we expect the agents of the government who carry guns and badges to be in general better behaved than those at the IRS or the National Labor Relations Board? We have city councils that conduct their affairs in convenient secrecy and put their own interests above those of the communities that they allege to serve, and yet we naïvely think that when that self-serving process is used to hire a police commissioner or to organize a police department, then we’ll get saints and Einsteins out of all that muck.
It's very relevant, as Williamson points out, that the more heavily progressive a city becomes, the worse that city becomes for black people by and large. Following community organizer/agitator shakedowns, installations of heavy handed liberalism via race politics, and eventual political cronyism and corruption, the group that always ends up the worst is the one the political class used (as Malcolm X pointed out in 1963) to get there - poor black people.
Ferguson is the latest example that no matter how bad things are for a black person, a liberal can always find a policy that makes it worse.
This has turned into a race issue, which it should have have become. He was NOT innocent. He committed a crime, no matter how big or small, a crime is a crime. For the people of Ferguson to be acting in such a way is just disgraceful. They have Black on Black shootings, looting and more crime. The shooting was a jump off point for them to instill chaos.
On the flip side, have you seen the video of the black kid beating up on a black security guard for telling the kids they can't skate there. mmm, where is al sharpton when 38 black people are killed in one weekend in Chicago?
You would never see White people acting like this if a white person is killed at the hands of a black officer.
Why? Does the mob scare you that much that you would prefer it turn out to be the cop that was at fault? The only thing that matters is the Truth and that is how Justice is attained, the truth does not require that the mob agree with it for it to still be true.
read - my statement - or read it again.
My preference is that the evidence would support the eye witness account and that the Brown was shot unarmed, with hands up, etc. That would be the easiest outcome.
I'm not saying - nor do I say in anyway - that I want a police officer convinced of something they didn't do
I just prefer the police officer to be guilty and justice done. Simpler.
If the evidence supports the police officer and the shooting is justified. . well its going to be a bad time for St Louis. But as I like to say
Why? Does the mob scare you that much that you would prefer it turn out to be the cop that was at fault? The only thing that matters is the Truth and that is how Justice is attained, the truth does not require that the mob agree with it for it to still be true.
Unfortunately the mob mentality has already handed down a verdict...and that's guilty in the murder of Brown by Wilson.
But that's the court of public opinion. The chant of "no justice no peace" illustrates exactly that except they don't want justice at all...they just want revenge.
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Originally Posted by jazzarama
How about this --- if the cop had a fractured bone from a punch, how come Brown's hand didn't have bruises ? ... or this --- did anyone examine the cop car for evidence of the cop's eye hitting the door frame as he exited to execute Brown ? So many questions
per Baden, a shot fired from less than 1-2 feet can leave powder on the body.
Obviously these facts will slowly leak out as investigation continue and they are being released to the public domain.
Also Baden, the pathologist, also said he had no access to Brown's shirt, which he was wearing at the time....so if he was shot at close range the gun powder would be on the shirt, not on his skin....
Really, I have seen more than one riot that got out of hand simply because the police did not have the equipment to deal with it, the riots on LA are an excellent example of such, along with several before.
A riot is out of hand Don't you mean demonstration/protest.
The National Guard were all deployed to the Target parking lot.
That's what they guarded..the command center.
The Governor is still tip toeing around the racial issues.
Ah yes I do remember seeing pics of them in a target parking lot...lol
Seriously, the leadership needs to take charge and ensure safety for the people and businesses of Ferguson.
The thugs have chosen to participate in a lawless society and so they have chosen to bring the national guard unto themselves. Now we just need swift actions to stop the thugs tonight.
This has turned into a race issue, which it should have have become. He was NOT innocent. He committed a crime, no matter how big or small, a crime is a crime.
Yeah - you forgot jaywalking. So he obviously deserved to die because of the dual cigar stealing and jay walking.
Lets make sure we stay close to the evidence. The fact that he stole some cigars is largely irrelevant to the use of force.
I also blame St Louis for the crowds reaction. obviously this is just a straw. . they are doing something wrong if the crowd is this pissed off by one person killed. Obviously this pot has been boiling for a while. .and I blame the local institution for that.
[quote=ginmqi;36149076]Oh dang, poor reporting by CNN. Well in that case then what she says is kinda useless.
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No, CNN confirmed with sources within the investigation that what she was claiming was in fact the officer's actual recounting of events and those sources confirmed that was correct.
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Don't you mean demonstration/protest.