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Old 08-17-2014, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If none of the eye-witnesses report that Michael Brown twirled around and advanced toward the cop in a threatening manner ---then I will not believe that he did that. I don't think even the police have ever said that, just posters on here.

From all the witnesses it sounds like Brown was retreating. He had already been shot once in the arm right by the car, and was shot again while retreating from the car. Brown's body jerked and then he was just starting to turn around and raise his arms, but didn't get a chance to do much more because a barrage of gunshots killed him. His friend Johnson also said that Brown was starting to sink to his knees and that might have involved a step forward in order to do that, which the cop may have misread as an advance towards him.

It sounds like the cop just lost his head. But we won't know until more of the evidence and autopsy results are revealed.
Go read about Sophia King incident in Austin TX.
Then think twice about what the witnesses say.

Sometimes the color of your skin takes priority over the truth.

 
Old 08-17-2014, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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If none of the eye-witnesses report that Michael Brown twirled around and advanced toward the cop in a threatening manner ---then I will not believe that he did that. I don't think even the police have ever said that, just posters on here.

Witnesses can be incredibly unreliable, one of them even happened to be an accomplice in the robbery with Brown.

If the witnesses are claiming that Brown was shot in the back, yet the forensics evidence indicates that it simply isn't true, they can't be regarded as anything but lacking credibility.
 
Old 08-17-2014, 12:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ellemint View Post
If none of the eye-witnesses report that Michael Brown twirled around and advanced toward the cop in a threatening manner ---then I will not believe that he did that. I don't think even the police have ever said that, just posters on here.

From all the witnesses it sounds like Brown was retreating. He had already been shot once in the arm right by the car, and was shot again while retreating from the car. Brown's body jerked and then he was just starting to turn around and raise his arms, but didn't get a chance to do much more because a barrage of gunshots killed him. His friend Johnson also said that Brown was starting to sink to his knees and that might have involved a step forward in order to do that, which the cop may have misread as an advance towards him.

It sounds like the cop just lost his head. But we won't know until more of the evidence and autopsy results are revealed.
A Witness Conversation Unknowingly Captured at the Scene of the Ferguson Shooting is a Game-Changer
 
Old 08-17-2014, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I'm sure it was on the autopsy report which way the bullets entered.
And both Brown's mom and the DOJ are doing their own "independent" autopsies now.

The Brown family and the attorney have completed their autopsy, they asked the federal government to do a third on the body.
 
Old 08-17-2014, 12:07 PM
 
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Poor Dr Baden.

This won't end well for him.
 
Old 08-17-2014, 12:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ellemint
If none of the eye-witnesses report that Michael Brown twirled around and advanced toward the cop in a threatening manner ---then I will not believe that he did that. I don't think even the police have ever said that, just posters on here.
Don't distract us!
 
Old 08-17-2014, 12:12 PM
 
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Go read about Sophia King incident in Austin TX.
Then think twice about what the witnesses say.

Sometimes the color of your skin takes priority over the truth.
I read some of it and I don't get your point.
 
Old 08-17-2014, 12:12 PM
 
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The Brown family and the attorney have completed their autopsy, they asked the federal government to do a third on the body.
What was the results of the first and second autopsy reports?
 
Old 08-17-2014, 12:12 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Maybe you aren't aware of this but the DOJ put a quota on how many minorities can get disciplinary action at school.

That "guidance" went out last year to all schools. So we're not coddling it..we're totally ignoring it and not recording any incidents of it now.
I am NOT talking about discipline in the school...it ALL starts at home.

The deeper conversation about accountability needs to start within the community. We need to have this conversation behind closed doors. We need to deal with the environment that is shaping and allowing the behavior.
 
Old 08-17-2014, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Do you have a link to that?
I'll just post the link to the Dear Colleague letter with a note that schools must provide the FedGov with a monthly discipline report that includes race of the student.

You can go off to research further as to the outcome and what schools are doing to stay within the DOJ's quota of fairness.

http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/lis...1-title-vi.pdf
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