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Old 08-18-2014, 11:58 AM
 
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There is only one way to use a gun. If you bring it out, you'd better be in imminent danger or reasonable fear of bodily harm. If Brown was indeed charging the officer, then he was fully justified in firing as many rounds as it took to bring Brown down.




If you attack me and I feel I am in enough danger to pull out my gun, I'm going to keep firing my gun until you can't attack me anymore. Whether that means you are wounded or dead, does not matter to me at that point, I'll keep shooting until the threat is over. That is how you are taught to use a gun.
Thanks for answering, and there, Polly, is what I would have said.
When you attack others expect them to defend themselves, sooner or later all bullies run into someone that can and does take them down. It is unfortunate that the 18 year old kid will not see his 19th year because of his own actions, hopefully other children will learn from the lesson he provided, being a bully and a criminal will land you in jail or dead sooner or later, chose another path and live a long and happy life.

 
Old 08-18-2014, 11:59 AM
 
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There is only one way to use a gun. If you bring it out, you'd better be in imminent danger or reasonable fear of bodily harm. If Brown was indeed charging the officer, then he was fully justified in firing as many rounds as it took to bring Brown down.




If you attack me and I feel I am in enough danger to pull out my gun, I'm going to keep firing my gun until you can't attack me anymore. Whether that means you are wounded or dead, does not matter to me at that point, I'll keep shooting until the threat is over. That is how you are taught to use a gun.
That is the way I was taught.....shoot for the middle and keep shooting.
 
Old 08-18-2014, 11:59 AM
 
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Yet he is now a Federal witness. That came from his attorney who said he can't talk to the press anymore because he is a Federal witness. The Fed may have jumped the gun a little too early on gathering witnesses for an assassination charge.


Even if Wilson is innocent, his life as he knows it is basically over at this point. If he's not found guilty in a trial, the government will hang civil rights violations over his head and if that fails, he'll get to move somewhere far away where he might be able to find a small modicum of safety and peace.
 
Old 08-18-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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Polly, shooting to "maim" does not exist in the real world at all.

There's not a single credible firearms training program in the world that will teach you anything other than to fire center mass.
I did not know that. I thought cops could shoot to wound, and only used lethal force if
necessary. So, you are saying, every time a police officer shoots his weapon, it is to shoot to kill, e.g. three shots to the chest, then if criminal does not warrant deadly force, should not they pick another weapon?

Grab that Taser or baton first then. Especially if the perpetrator does not have a WEAPON.
 
Old 08-18-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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Even if Wilson is innocent, his life as he knows it is basically over at this point. If he's not found guilty in a trial, the government will hang civil rights violations over his head and if that fails, he'll get to move somewhere far away where he might be able to find a small modicum of safety and peace.
He should move to mid-Michigan......we love him.
 
Old 08-18-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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That is the way I was taught.....shoot for the middle and keep shooting.



I don't think some folks understand that if you "shoot to maim", that the argument will be made that you weren't in all that much danger to begin with and even if the shooting was justified, you could still end up going to jail as a result, if not, you'll certainly face a civil lawsuit. If you're going to shoot, shoot to bring the threat down. This is also assuming that you don't accidentally hit an innocent bystander because you weren't firing center mass.



The only people who try to be cute and "maim" someone end up regretting it terribly in the end.
 
Old 08-18-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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Even if Wilson is innocent, his life as he knows it is basically over at this point. If he's not found guilty in a trial, the government will hang civil rights violations over his head and if that fails, he'll get to move somewhere far away where he might be able to find a small modicum of safety and peace.
Sadly true and most will not care one bit because no matter what, they will still think he is guilty, people can be real arses at times.
 
Old 08-18-2014, 12:03 PM
 
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I love how Brown had to have been wielding a minigun Arnold style, with video evidence of him screaming "**** the police" for some people to accept that a police officer might actually have a right to defend themselves.
nothing wrong with defending oneself but if a police officer needs to kill every time he feels defenseless it's going to be a long winter.
 
Old 08-18-2014, 12:04 PM
 
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I don't think some folks understand that if you "shoot to maim", that the argument will be made that you weren't in all that much danger to begin with and even if the shooting was justified, you could still end up going to jail as a result, if not, you'll certainly face a civil lawsuit. If you're going to shoot, shoot to bring the threat down. This is also assuming that you don't accidentally hit an innocent bystander because you weren't firing center mass.



The only people who try to be cute and "maim" someone end up regretting it terribly in the end.
and half of them regret it because the person who was hit has a chance to give testimony
 
Old 08-18-2014, 12:04 PM
 
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I don't think some folks understand that if you "shoot to maim", that the argument will be made that you weren't in all that much danger to begin with and even if the shooting was justified, you could still end up going to jail as a result, if not, you'll certainly face a civil lawsuit. If you're going to shoot, shoot to bring the threat down. This is also assuming that you don't accidentally hit an innocent bystander because you weren't firing center mass.



The only people who try to be cute and "maim" someone end up regretting it terribly in the end.
They just might be killed with their own gun.
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