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Is this for real? America the bastion of human rights my a$$. Absolutely shocking ..... and disturbing. Stealing a $100 jacket and getting life? You might aswell execute people for grand theft or assault no?
He got life not because of stealing the jacket, but because this theft on top of his previous three convictions have shown he is incapable of living in civilized society, all he knows how to do is commit crime. He should be removed form society, he has shown he cannot participate in it. He is one less criminal off the street.
But people in states with these laws are glad because it has brought crime under control, and is a contributing factor to the decreasing crime rates.
3 strikes is just that, the person after their third time obviously will not learn or care to live among civilized society.
That is good for them and i am sure they are glad... my state hasn't had an out of control crime problem so we never had the need to try this 3 strike thing...
That's just the attitude I am so pleased we don't have here. Are you telling me a drug addict who steals on 3 occasions deserved life in prison? If so thank god I am not American. Or at least a Florida citizen. New York has gotten its crime under control - and they seem to be on the same page as us.
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Originally Posted by k350
He got life not because of stealing the jacket, but because this theft on top of his previous three convictions have shown he is incapable of living in civilized society, all he knows how to do is commit crime. He should be removed form society, he has shown he cannot participate in it. He is one less criminal off the street.
Fewer than half of American states have a 3-strikes law, though many states have sentencing guideline that permit longer sentences for habitual offenders.
Anyway, these laws are very controvesial, in part because it puts people in prison for petty offenses, and it tends to be very racially imbalanced. Basically it has become a de facto way to reduce the African-American population on the streets.
However, this is another good example of why foreigners should not perceive the U.S. as a monolith.
That's just the attitude I am so pleased we don't have here. Are you telling me a drug addict who steals on 3 occasions deserved life in prison? If so thank god I am not American. Or at least a Florida citizen. New York has gotten its crime under control - and they seem to be on the same page as us.
NYC got its crime under control with its "broken glass" policy which still runs today, including the random stopping and searching of people based on profiling even though they are not doing anything wrong. However, seems to be one great deterrent.
Fewer than half of American states have a 3-strikes law, though many states have sentencing guideline that permit longer sentences for habitual offenders.
Anyway, these laws are very controvesial, in part because it puts people in prison for petty offenses, and it tends to be very racially imbalanced. Basically it has become a de facto way to reduce the African-American population on the streets.
However, this is another good example of why foreigners should not perceive the U.S. as a monolith.
How is it racially imbalanced? Are you saying race has something to do if someone commits three crimes? It is a genetic factor?
That is good for them and i am sure they are glad... my state hasn't had an out of control crime problem so we never had the need to try this 3 strike thing...
Because you live in MN, you never had to deal with issues like having over 1000 people murdered a year in just one city like California for example did.
Because you live in MN, you never had to deal with issues like having over 1000 people murdered a year in just one city like California for example did.
Yes sorry, i didn't mean to come off as a snob btw...
Because you live in MN, you never had to deal with issues like having over 1000 people murdered a year in just one city like California for example did.
Putting people in prison for life for stealing a jacket has nothing to do with curtailing the number of murders. Crime has fallen sharply in the UK since the early 1980s and we do not implement such idiotic measures here. Putting people in prison for life - for stealing - is going to ruin a person's life and probably turn them into a hardened criminal on the inside, meaning if they are ever lucky enough to be let out, they are going to be an even bigger danger to society upon release. The US has one of the worst re-offending rates in the developed world - compare and contrast to Norway's lenient stance and their low recidivism rate.
This idea of prisons being a place of punishment instead of rehabilitation is not helpful - it's scary in fact. People are so vengeful!
Exactly we are not talking murderer's here. I find it truly sad that a fairly normal person who has broken the law, minor laws, 3 times can be treated THAT badly from their fellow countrymen - absolutely crazy.
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