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Old 08-19-2014, 07:07 PM
 
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This might be a good time to strike up a good friendship with Iran and normalize relations.

I know you hawks will hate that because it takes away a permanent boogeyman that you can always rely on just in case this ISIS thing loses steam. Iran is always a nice fallback when we run outta bad guys.

But it's worth considering.
I see the point, but it's the same mistake we always make of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Typically, we naively think the group will be our friend, we (should) know that Iran will not.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:07 PM
 
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The people in Iraq needed a brutal dictator to keep crap like ISIS from forming. Being greeted as liberators meant that people who form radical extremist religious sects have liberty to commit horrible acts!!!
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:07 PM
 
Location: The land where God created :)
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Exclamation ISIS threatens America: 'We will drown all of you in blood'

ISIS Threatens America: 'We Will Drown All of You in Blood' | The Daily Caller

We need to take these threats seriously. Let's not forget 9/11 and Boston bombings and among others attack or planned attacks.

Meanwhile an American journalist who was missed for more than a year got beheaded today, and here is a link and video showing the barbaric and horrible beheading and message from the American to his family and American people and by the Islamic murder, then his head gets cut off

Video of Obama's speech and the beheading

How could human beings record a video of a beheading and shootings?!?!?!
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:09 PM
 
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Yes there are. In fact, forget moderate, most hardcore Muslims are peaceful. Where did we get this idea that if you're Muslim and you're a strong adherent to your religion then you're a terrorist
If there is a war there can be no in between. Were there Nazi's that weren't that bad, you know only the SS were the killers right?

There can be no exceptions if this scourge is going to be removed from the Earth. The religion of hate has to go. People can change, most of the folks in the Mid East would rather give up their religion than their children or their lives and without that cursed religion they may have a future.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:09 PM
 
Location: The land where God created :)
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Here's the video of the beheading (Graphic!)

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Old 08-19-2014, 07:10 PM
 
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I see the point, but it's the same mistake we always make of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Typically, we naively think the group will be our friend, we (should) know that Iran will not.
Friend in the generic sense. We don't have any REAL friends anyway and we don't need them.

I see no good reason to maintain a hostile relationship with Iran at this point.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Doesn't work. For all intents and purposes there is an infinite supply of Jihadists. Kill a 100,000 and another 100,000 would appear.

And they are inextricably combined with more rational muslims who in no way deserve our enmity.

But if we go after the Jihadists we turn the friendlies into Jihadists.

i would think the only practical step would be to force the nuclear weapons out of Pakistan. It is only a matter of time until we end up at cross purposes with Pakistan and we ought to get that one straightened out first.

Other than that though it has to be a police action. The only other course would be full scale genocide.
Oh my yes, we have had tremendous success with police actions..
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:12 PM
 
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If there is a war there can be no in between. Were there Nazi's that weren't that bad, you know only the SS were the killers right?

There can be no exceptions if this scourge is going to be removed from the Earth. The religion of hate has to go. People can change, most of the folks in the Mid East would rather give up their religion than their children or their lives and without that cursed religion they may have a future.
Islam ain't going anywhere.

You know better.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:13 PM
 
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Oh my yes, we have had tremendous success with police actions..
Not much success with wars either.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Get outta there and stay outta there!
Exactly! We lost a journalist, it sure isn't worth the life of an American serviceman. Not our country, not our problem.
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