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Old 08-22-2014, 05:41 AM
 
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It also demands that Gov. Jay Nixon (D) “immediately remove” St. Louis County Prosecutor Robert McCulloch from the case. Nixon said in a statement on Tuesday that he would not do so, while allowing McCulloch the option of recusing himself if he sees fit."
Besides the controversy over the handling of some of his cases and comments, McCulloch's
father who was a police officer was gunned down and killed by a black man. And his mom
and brother both have jobs in law enforcement.

If that incident happened to any potential juror, they would not be accepted for the jury by either side. While he may want the case, why jeopardize things. After all, it's only one case in a career of over 20 years. Does the area really need any more controversy.

He's already gotten off to a rocky start with this comment, after Nixon used other police
than that of the St Louis County Police Department for riot control:

“It’s shameful what he did today, he had no legal authority to do that,” McCulloch said of the decision. “To denigrate the men and women of the county police department is shameful.”

In another case in 2001, McCulloch left out testimony in a grand jury hearing, that had stated two men did not move toward police before being gunned down. McCulloch went on to call the dead men bums.

Yep, esp. in this case, McCulloch should recuse himself.

 
Old 08-22-2014, 06:20 AM
 
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Oh yeah, someone identifying a person who had nothing to do with this is no big deal. Sorry to differ with you
Didn't pay attention because it doesn't fit the agenda.

That kind of irresponsible behavior causes a nightmare for the individual so carelessly and wrongly identified and could end in physical assault or death for the victim. Any thinking person would look upon information released by Anonymous as suspect considering how poorly they vetted the personal information on the officer.
 
Old 08-22-2014, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Didn't pay attention because it doesn't fit the agenda.

That kind of irresponsible behavior causes a nightmare for the individual so carelessly and wrongly identified and could end in physical assault or death for the victim. Any thinking person would look upon information released by Anonymous as suspect considering how poorly they vetted the personal information on the officer.
Didn't Anonymous call for that whole day of rage thing yesterday? Didn't see anything on the news so I'm guessing it was pretty much a bust? The news cycle churns and turns and nothing stays in the forefront of peoples' minds for long.
 
Old 08-22-2014, 06:29 AM
 
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Didn't pay attention because it doesn't fit the agenda.
I'm not reading "every story" surrounding the case - no. But the tape is legit.
The original link I gave was from an article that mentioned Anonymous:
and the dispatch call itself.

Did Ferguson police officer fail to call in shooting? | PunditFact

"Where does the notion that Wilson did not call in the shooting emerge from? There appear to be two sources.

One is the lawyer for Dorian Johnson, who was with Brown at the moment of the confrontation with police and fled the scene unharmed. According to the Washington Post, Johnson’s attorney, former St. Louis mayor Freeman Bosley Jr., said Saturday that the Ferguson police officer "doesn’t attempt to resuscitate. He does not call for medical help. The officer didn’t call it in that someone had been shot."

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Old 08-22-2014, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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I'm not reading "every story" surrounding the case - no. But the tape is legit.
The original link I gave was from an article that mentioned Anonymous:
and the dispatch call itself.

Did Ferguson police officer fail to call in shooting? | PunditFact

"Where does the notion that Wilson did not call in the shooting emerge from? There appear to be two sources.

One is the lawyer for Dorian Johnson, who was with Brown at the moment of the confrontation with police and fled the scene unharmed. According to the Washington Post, Johnson’s attorney, former St. Louis mayor Freeman Bosley Jr., said Saturday that the Ferguson police officer "doesn’t attempt to resuscitate. He does not call for medical help. The officer didn’t call it in that someone had been shot."
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Okay Polly, logic time. A second officer showed up on the scene minutes after the shooting. If officer Wilson did not call it in, as you are claiming, how did that officer know to go there? Just use some basic logic here.

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Old 08-22-2014, 06:44 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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A few things to realize on that dispatch call. First, a Ferguson officer would not be radioing in to St Louis County Dispatch. They are completely separate agencies. The troubling part is the phone call back to Ferguson dispatch. But like I mentioned, Ferguson polices three other cities and dispatches for even more cities than that. There is not one dispatcher for Ferguson and it is not unusual for a dispatcher to not know what is going on with another dispatcher's calls for service.

I went and read a copy of that 8/19 report this morning. That report is filed by St Louis County, but it is a report of investigation for another agency. It is filed by a St Louis County homicide detective (who also has the last name Wilson, but the badge number tells you exactly which Wilson it is) for a Ferguson incident. That report would be for St Louis County's role in investigating the homicide before Ferguson turned the investigation over to St Louis County. The report was opened 40 minutes after the shooting occurred and closed on 8/19, which is a pretty normal length of time for a report like that.

Basically, Ferguson opens an incident report. St Louis County responds to assist and opens an investigative report as an investigation for other agency; this is where St Louis County would document their involvement with Ferguson while anything they discover in their investigation would go in the Ferguson incident report as a supplemental report. Ferguson transfers the incident report to St Louis County and, I think, reclassifies their incident report as now an investigative report as an investigation for other agency. St Louis County opens a new incident report for the homicide investigation and the original Ferguson report becomes a supplemental investigative report on the St Louis County incident report. St Louis County than closes the original investigation for other agency report, transferring any supplemental reports (witness interviews, forensics, etc) to the St Louis County incident report.
 
Old 08-22-2014, 06:50 AM
 
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You could just institute a national policy that any violent crime committed against a person of another race is considered a hate crime and the mandatory sentence given is the maximum or even harsher.
You want to obsess about race so much, that's the only way to go.
 
Old 08-22-2014, 06:56 AM
 
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Self-Segregation: Why It's So Hard for Whites to Understand Ferguson - Atlantic Mobile
 
Old 08-22-2014, 07:05 AM
 
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Okay Polly, logic time. A second officer showed up on the scene minutes after the shooting. If officer Wilson did not call it in, as you are claiming, how did that officer know to go there? Just use some basic logic here.
I'm assuming they had dispatched an officer because of the "crowd control" at the street and the
dispatcher already states "policeman is shooting". It does not mean Wilson made that call.
 
Old 08-22-2014, 07:07 AM
 
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Attorneys just said, a person past does not matter....
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