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Old 08-21-2014, 09:03 PM
 
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Yes, they did. Incident report 14-12391 (or 2014-12391). That's been pretty widely published as the incident number.
The actual investigative report is being filed by the investigating agency, St Louis County, and is report 14-43984 (or 2014-43984). Again, also widely published. Both report numbers were in the robbery report.
Then I guess NBC will have to retract their story.

Michael Brown Shooting: Why Ferguson Police Never Filed 'Incident Report' - NBC News

"Police in Ferguson, Missouri, did not file an “incident report” on the fatal shooting of 19-year-old Michael Brown because they turned the case over to St. Louis County police almost immediately, the county prosecutor’s office tells NBC News.

Critics and news media outlets have questioned why Ferguson police released an incident report from a robbery in which Brown was a suspect, as well as security video showing the stick-up, but not the report on the shooting of the unarmed 18-year-old a short time later by Officer Darren Wilson.

The reason, according to the office of St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert P. McCulloch, is that it doesn’t exist."

 
Old 08-21-2014, 09:07 PM
 
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Then I guess NBC will have to retract their story.

Michael Brown Shooting: Why Ferguson Police Never Filed 'Incident Report' - NBC News

"Police in Ferguson, Missouri, did not file an “incident report” on the fatal shooting of 19-year-old Michael Brown because they turned the case over to St. Louis County police almost immediately, the county prosecutor’s office tells NBC News.

Critics and news media outlets have questioned why Ferguson police released an incident report from a robbery in which Brown was a suspect, as well as security video showing the stick-up, but not the report on the shooting of the unarmed 18-year-old a short time later by Officer Darren Wilson.

The reason, according to the office of St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert P. McCulloch, is that it doesn’t exist."
Anonymous had released the dispatch tapes and they showed that the dispatch didn't know about the shooting. They heard about it from the news.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 09:08 PM
 
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Oh but Brown knew about the robbery and when you just pulled off a robbery the last person you want to run into is a cop.

And round and round and round we go.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 09:09 PM
 
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I doubt he needs to go to the ends of the earth to find qualified applicants.
In a community where even obtaining an ID is just too darn hard, where just 6% of black voters vote, it's not a stretch that the applicant pool for law enforcement is miniscule (if it exists at all). Frankly, saying any occupation "needs" more of a certain race is racist.

Either we are striving for racism to end, or we are picking sides. Decide, and lets go with whatever. The racist fence straddling by blacks needs to stop.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 09:09 PM
 
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Investigative journalism from regular people could be what solves this case and protects someone's innocence.



There were some brave journalist too. Not the ones who showed up after the 'nice' officer took over. The ones who were there at the beginning.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 09:09 PM
 
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Don't think so. The robbery report was filed. Not the killing report though.

Michael Brown Shooting: Why Ferguson Police Never Filed 'Incident Report' - NBC News

The county filed one that was essentially blank on 8/19.
Technically Ferguson did not file an incident report. Only one incident report can be filed and it can only be filed by the investigating agency (this is due to UCR). Ferguson filed an investigative report under the number I listed above.
Ferguson filed the investigative report and closed it as empty and transferred to St Louis County. That is the blank report you are referring to. Pretty much all it contained was the victim and the shooter, because that is as far as their investigation got. It was closed the same day as the robbery report was closed and the video was released, because the investigation had already been transferred to St Louis County. St Louis County has an open investigation that is under the number I listed above. That has not been disclosed, but is what is being presented to the Grand Jury right now.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 09:10 PM
 
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Taper off the entitlements while at the same time instituting a policy of accountability (mandatory drug testing to receive welfare and other benefits, no benefits for households that receive misdemeanor or felony convictions while on benefits, etc).

Create job training programs and life skills programs that are mandatory attendance to receive benefits. Job placement assistance upon certification completion, and benefits end there.

Things like that, things that would break the cycle of entitlement while at the same time fostering personal responsibility in the community.
I believe we already have that at the federal and many state level.....welfare to work programs.

Not too successful when there are no jobs available what with the recession and unemployment being what it is.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 09:11 PM
 
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In a community where even obtaining an ID is just too darn hard, where just 6% of black voters vote, it's not a stretch that the applicant pool for law enforcement is miniscule (if it exists at all). Frankly, saying any occupation "needs" more of a certain race is racist.

Either we are striving for racism to end, or we are picking sides. Decide, and lets go with whatever. The fence straddling by blacks needs to stop.
LOL so true. If they think it's too damn hard to get a voter ID how in the hell would they complete an application.... THEN go to work 5 days a week.

Then again, maybe they wouldn't apply because of their record, or just didn't want to give up the weed.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 09:12 PM
 
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Can the media demand the medical records of Wilson via the FOIA??


Sounds like he just executed a teenager.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Technically Ferguson did not file an incident report. Only one incident report can be filed and it can only be filed by the investigating agency (this is due to UCR). Ferguson filed an investigative report under the number I listed above.
Ferguson filed the investigative report and closed it as empty and transferred to St Louis County. That is the blank report you are referring to. Pretty much all it contained was the victim and the shooter, because that is as far as their investigation got. It was closed the same day as the robbery report was closed and the video was released, because the investigation had already been transferred to St Louis County. St Louis County has an open investigation that is under the number I listed above. That has not been disclosed, but is what is being presented to the Grand Jury right now.
On 8/19? A bit late wouldn't you say? Whatever is in it would be discounted given the publicity this case has received before that date. Who would (or could) believe anything that it might contain.

Or does it contain anything?
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