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Old 12-23-2007, 08:36 PM
 
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Yes they will.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,1396006.story

"Earlier this year, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported withheld adjudications represented a major loophole that allowed hundreds of Floridians with criminal records to obtain concealed weapon permits."

Also from the story:

"Besides being allowed to carry a concealed handgun in Florida, the license allowed Ward to buy as many guns as he wanted without a three-day waiting period and to legally carry them in 31 other states. "We'll see what the state will do now," Solomons said."

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Old 12-23-2007, 08:38 PM
 
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Yes they will.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,1396006.story

"Earlier this year, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported withheld adjudications represented a major loophole that allowed hundreds of Floridians with criminal records to obtain concealed weapon permits."

Also from the story:

"Besides being allowed to carry a concealed handgun in Florida, the license allowed Ward to buy as many guns as he wanted without a three-day waiting period and to legally carry them in 31 other states. "We'll see what the state will do now," Solomons said."

And, with the US Supreme court hearing a case about the ability to limit ones right to carry and own guns, all of these laws might be mute very soon.
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Old 12-23-2007, 08:42 PM
 
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Since California doesn't honor the CCW permit allowed in those 31 states, the story doesn't matter that much to me. But I think people living in those 31 states might be a bit concerned that Florida is passing out CCW permits to criminals.
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Old 12-23-2007, 10:25 PM
 
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This is an interesting story. However if a criminal wants a gun, getting one legally is probably not something they will worry about.
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Old 12-23-2007, 10:39 PM
 
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This has nothing to do with existing gun laws, and everything to do with the judge withholding adjudication. If a judge withholds adjudication, then there is no conviction. It is not a legal "loop-hole", it means the judge is withholding a conviction on the charge for some particular reason. It is typically done when someone is placed on probation, a judge might withhold adjudication unless the individual violates their probation.
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:32 PM
 
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Default typical anti gun

I read the news story. first it said he had MISDOMEANOR convictions. not felonys, hes allowed to posses a gun. typical anti gun news reporting. secondly with NICS the CCW doesnt matter. I can walkin and buy any gun in my home state, no waiting period. the guy was not a felon nor restricted to posses. also I got news for the cops, pulling a CCW does not stop me from buying a gun. federal law. you dont need a CCW to buy or own a gun.
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Old 12-24-2007, 01:19 AM
 
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Here's another Florida gun license story from today: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sfl-flbg...,7674431.story

You gotta love this one:

"In a series of investigative stories in January, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported that the state failed to suspend or revoke the licenses of hundreds of people with active domestic violence injunctions and arrest warrants, including a Tampa pizza delivery person wanted for shooting a 15-year-old boy to death over a stolen order of chicken wings."

Maybe this Tampa pizza delivery person should move to Texas?
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Here's another Florida gun license story from today: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sfl-flbg...,7674431.story

You gotta love this one:

"In a series of investigative stories in January, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported that the state failed to suspend or revoke the licenses of hundreds of people with active domestic violence injunctions and arrest warrants, including a Tampa pizza delivery person wanted for shooting a 15-year-old boy to death over a stolen order of chicken wings."

Maybe this Tampa pizza delivery person should move to Texas?
Perhaps the Sun-Sentinel should read the law before they print their anti-gun garbage. A person has to be CONVICTED before they can be denied a concealed weapon permit and "injunctions and arrest warrants" are not convictions.
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Old 12-25-2007, 02:16 AM
 
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when you have a restraining order against you, you cannot carry concealed. it does not take away your rights to own.
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Old 12-25-2007, 02:43 AM
 
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Perhaps the Sun-Sentinel should read the law before they print their anti-gun garbage. A person has to be CONVICTED before they can be denied a concealed weapon permit and "injunctions and arrest warrants" are not convictions.
Florida concealed weapons law is here: http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/weapons/index.html

Possible Reasons for Ineligibility:

The physical inability to handle a firearm safely.
A felony conviction (unless civil and firearm rights have been restored by the convicting authority).
Having adjudication withheld or sentence suspended on a felony or misdemeanor crime of violence unless three years have elapsed since probation or other conditions set by the court have been fulfilled.
A conviction for a misdemeanor crime of violence in the last three years.
A conviction for violation of controlled substance laws or multiple arrests for such offenses.
A record of drug or alcohol abuse.
Two or more DUI convictions within the previous three years.
Being committed to a mental institution or adjudged incompetent or mentally defective.
Failing to provide proof of proficiency with a firearm.
Having been issued a domestic violence injunction or an injunction against repeat violence that is currently in force.
Renouncement of U.S. citizenship.
A dishonorable discharge from the armed forces.
Being a fugitive from justice.

I bolded a few of the reasons which might be why the newspapers are reporting these things. Perhaps they do understand the Florida CCW laws?
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