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Old 09-02-2014, 09:28 PM
 
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There is nothing preventing a student athlete who needs more calories from bringing in additional food to augment his midday meal. The guidelines are based on the average student who is consuming two other meals of adequate quantity and nutritional value off campus.
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:33 PM
 
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Today on the lunch menu at my child's school is pizza, from a pizza chain. It's not healthy but thanks to Michelle Obama's, "Healthy Lunch Program" the portions are smaller. So the kids will still get unhealthy food, just less of it and they pay the same price as they did before. It really is a wonderful program and will solve our country's obesity crisis, I'm sure of it!
Michelle stated one time when she wants to eat healthy she has pizza, when she gets crazy it's French Fries. I certainly had to laugh to think she's promoting a program without knowing pizza is not the first choice of healthy eating. Guess if one gets a veggie pizza one may be doing okay, except the dough and sauce are probably high in sugar and sodium.

Only way kids are going to lose weight is if the parents care enough to see it happen. One school meal is not making kids fat.
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:36 PM
 
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There is nothing preventing a student athlete who needs more calories from bringing in additional food to augment his midday meal.
Why should he have to because a percentage eat too much and will continue to no matter what the schools do?

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The guidelines are based on the average student who is consuming two other meals of adequate quantity and nutritional value off campus.
We shouldn't accept average, especially when this average is an elusive number. It's none of Washington D.C.'s business what people in Arizona decides is best for their students.
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:38 PM
 
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What difference does that make? A student athlete of the same size is considered Obese.

The 6'2 240 lb linebacker is considered obese just the same as the 5'5 240 lb slacker. Is that a fair comparison that tells us anything? No, it's a scam.
We are talking about kids not athletes. And this is not a scam. Do you not care about these kids who sit around all day eating junk food and not getting any exercise. All you have to do is look around to see some of these kids are obese. It's really sad. If parents want to keep feeding their kids unhealthy foods then that's on them but the schools do not have to do that. If you want your kid to eat donuts at lunch then pack it for them.
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:40 PM
 
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Why should he have to because a percentage eat too much and will continue to no matter what the schools do?



We shouldn't accept average, especially when this average is an elusive number. It's none of Washington D.C.'s business what people in Arizona decides is best for their students.
The school lunch program has seen a lot of changes since I first ate a "school lunch" in 1961, but, it has always been one lunch per day. Students with different needs have always had to work it out, e.g. bring more food, different food, whatever.

Do kids' bodies work differently in Arizona than DC? I don't think so! The school lunches are calculated to give roughly 1/3 the calories and nutrients a kid needs for the day. They can augment that with their other meals and snacks. The calorie allotments are higher for high school students than elementary students. Any school district is free to opt-out of the school lunch program and do their own. Few do, b/c the federal program provides subsidies.
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:43 PM
 
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We are talking about kids not athletes. And this is not a scam. Do you not care about these kids who sit around all day eating junk food and not getting any exercise.
Feeding them noodles and celery is not exercise. I already addressed your point earlier. If you would stick to the topic, school lunches, it would be appreciated.

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All you have to do is look around to see some of these kids are obese. It's really sad. If parents want to keep feeding their kids unhealthy foods then that's on them but the schools do not have to do that. If you want your kid to eat donuts at lunch then pack it for them.
Strawman. Nobody, absolutely no one is arguing that a good lunch is donuts. Did you answer my question above? No you didn't.

The 6'3 240 lb linebacker is considered obese. Is that really a valid description or rather someone trying to pull the wool over your eyes?
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:47 PM
 
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Michelle stated one time when she wants to eat healthy she has pizza, when she gets crazy it's French Fries. I certainly had to laugh to think she's promoting a program without knowing pizza is not the first choice of healthy eating. Guess if one gets a veggie pizza one may be doing okay, except the dough and sauce are probably high in sugar and sodium.

Only way kids are going to lose weight is if the parents care enough to see it happen. One school meal is not making kids fat.
Pizza can fit into a healthy diet. Any "real" nutritionist worth his/her (most are 'her') RD can tell you that. It's best to avoid the fatty meat toppings, but the veggie and fruit toppings are fine, plus lean meat such as lean ham and/or grilled ground meat. Not much sugar in dough, just a little usually to make the yeast raise. Some sauces have sugar, generally not *too* much, most likely no more than in Teriyaki sauce and many other marinades.

I agree the school meals are not making kids fat.

Pizzas That Are Heart Healthy | LIVESTRONG.COM
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:48 PM
 
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Michelle stated one time when she wants to eat healthy she has pizza, when she gets crazy it's French Fries. I certainly had to laugh to think she's promoting a program without knowing pizza is not the first choice of healthy eating. Guess if one gets a veggie pizza one may be doing okay, except the dough and sauce are probably high in sugar and sodium.

Only way kids are going to lose weight is if the parents care enough to see it happen. One school meal is not making kids fat.
We eat pizza often. Thin whole wheat crust, tomato sauce with no added sugar, plenty of veggies (right now, they are from our garden), shredded poached chicken, and topped with shredded part-skim mozzarella. Served with a salad and fruit, that's a perfectly healthy dinner, and it's delicious. Pizza gets a bad rap.
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:51 PM
 
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The school lunch program has seen a lot of changes since I first ate a "school lunch" in 1961, but, it has always been one lunch per day. Students with different needs have always had to work it out, e.g. bring more food, different food, whatever.
That was the exception not the rule.

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Do kids' bodies work differently in Arizona than DC? I don't think so! The school lunches are calculated to give roughly 1/3 the calories and nutrients a kid needs for the day. They can augment that with their other meals and snacks. The calorie allotments are higher for high school students than elementary students. Any school district is free to opt-out of the school lunch program and do their own. Few do, b/c the federal program provides subsidies.
They have to pay into it whether they take back out of it or not. That needs to stop. You can not make a one size fits all nutrition program. Those who believe you can are simply missing something in their own lives and develop this insane desire to control the lives of others to compensate.
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:52 PM
 
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Feeding them noodles and celery is not exercise. I already addressed your point earlier. If you would stick to the topic, school lunches, it would be appreciated.



Strawman. Nobody, absolutely no one is arguing that a good lunch is donuts. Did you answer my question above? No you didn't.

The 6'3 240 lb linebacker is considered obese. Is that really a valid description or rather someone trying to pull the wool over your eyes?

You seem to be the one who is not sticking to the topic. You are the one who brought adult athletes into the conservation which isn't the topic. Are we now talking about college kids? I am talking about elementary, middle and high schools kids.
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