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Old 08-24-2014, 04:20 PM
 
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Lead the way.

Of course, we were a colony once. didn't much care for it.

You know why? High taxes, lack of freedom, etc etc.
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Old 08-24-2014, 04:22 PM
 
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That is not our problem!! If they don't want to develop their own country or fight to save it, so be it. If other Arab countries don't want to help them to develop, why should the US?

Why don't you go to an Arab League meeting and convince them to do something to help these countries?

You can give them all the money, training and education, and they will still lay on their backs and allow the radical extremists to walk over them. The other choice is to flee their country. If the radical extremists can get their hands on arms, so can the civilians if they want to defend their country. They can always contact Eric Holder and see if he could do some gun running for them.
Radical extremists have huge funding and financial backing allowing them to purchase arms which they then use to steal more arms. Your average family is poor with no real means of getting armed.
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Old 08-24-2014, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You know why?
School me.

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High taxes, lack of freedom, etc etc.
Naw...

The Brits hated our freedoms.

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Old 08-24-2014, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Laurentia
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For what it's worth the British and French colonized most of the Middle East, and briefly Iraq itself was a British colony - if the British and French, who got colonization down to a science yet still wrecked Africa, couldn't do much good there, I doubt America today could do much better.

Now, although it would be a flagrant injustice and I'm very opposed to it, taking over the oil field regions and making them U.S. territory is a proposal distinct from colonizing and attempting to civilize their entire country. Heck, with torture, mass surveillance, rape, sexual assault against both adults and children, child abuse, and indefinite imprisonment by government all being legally sanctioned, America itself is in desperate need of being civilized. Until that day happens and the United States rejoin the civilized world, Americans are not ones to talk about colonizing and civilizing other countries.
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Old 08-24-2014, 06:01 PM
 
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For what it's worth the British and French colonized most of the Middle East, and briefly Iraq itself was a British colony - if the British and French, who got colonization down to a science yet still wrecked Africa, couldn't do much good there, I doubt America today could do much better.

Now, although it would be a flagrant injustice and I'm very opposed to it, taking over the oil field regions and making them U.S. territory is a proposal distinct from colonizing and attempting to civilize their entire country. Heck, with torture, mass surveillance, rape, sexual assault against both adults and children, child abuse, and indefinite imprisonment by government all being legally sanctioned, America itself is in desperate need of being civilized. Until that day happens and the United States rejoin the civilized world, Americans are not ones to talk about colonizing and civilizing other countries.
Lol America is not civil? Lived there for 28 years. Perfectly peaceful, stable, free life.

Parts of the ME have proven not be capable of bringing about peace and stability on their own. We should simply colonize it and bring peace to a people and land who are exhausted of constant war and fear.
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Old 08-24-2014, 06:17 PM
 
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Lol America is not civil? Lived there for 28 years. Perfectly peaceful, stable, free life.

Parts of the ME have proven not be capable of bringing about peace and stability on their own. We should simply colonize it and bring peace to a people and land who are exhausted of constant war and fear.
Ok...And after the Middle East, what uncivilized part of the world do you want to conquer next?
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Old 08-24-2014, 06:46 PM
 
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Ok...And after the Middle East, what uncivilized part of the world do you want to conquer next?
I am for bringing peace, stability, and freedom to every corner of the world. Through what ever means necessary.
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Old 08-24-2014, 06:51 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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When you have the means to help people you do it. That part of the world has suffered long enough due to the radicalism of a minority. A large portion of people simply want peace and freedom, which every person on this earth should be entitled to.
If they're not willing to fight for peace and freedom it's not our job to fight for them.
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Old 08-24-2014, 06:53 PM
 
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If they're not willing to fight for peace and freedom it's not our job to fight for them.
how do you suppose they do that? average families do not have arms nor the means to get them.
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Old 08-24-2014, 07:00 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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how do you suppose they do that? average families do not have arms nor the means to get them.
The Iraqi Army had arms and turned tail and ran when a fight loomed.

Besides. just WHERE does the Constitution task the US with "bringing peace, stability, and freedom to every corner of the world" as you allege we should do?
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