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Which will be negated by the witness who said his hands where under or on his stomach which will be negated by the autopsy that says his hands weren't up. My point is all this testimony people bring to the internet and media BEFORE bringing it to court is doing more damage to browns side than Wilson's. The end result will be all the witnesses that are seemingly For brown will cancel each other out based on minor inconsistencies (and probably could have been corrected had they waited and gave themselves time to collect their thoughts) the only testimony left standing will be Wilson's.
But..but...I heard a guy on the video say his hands were up so it must be true. What time will the public hanging take place?
Perhaps the government and police can learn from this as Cincinnati did.
Ferguson's mistakes include poor communication with the residents of the town...
That's more than a city or police problem.
It is an issue with Missouri's laws. Police and media here have always been frustrated with our sunshine law. It is designed to protect suspects by making it illegal to release information about them, but it also leads to frustration for victims.
The tradeoff here, though, is if the sunshine laws are changed to allow what Cincinnati does now, then you will see many more criminals go free. When you release information to the public from an open investigation, you also start removing that information from consideration in the actual trial.
The tradeoff here, though, is if the sunshine laws are changed to allow what Cincinnati does now, then you will see many more criminals go free. When you release information to the public from an open investigation, you also start removing that information from consideration in the actual trial.
What prevents public info from being used in a trial ? We know from FL. and other sunshine law states that public info like autopsy reports, redacted witness statements, crime scene photos, etc. are used at trials.
There's no valid reason in a case like this for MO. or the feds to keep everything secret.
And this is why I say we need a lesson in law and protocol etc. you're treating wilson as a suspect when legally he's an officer of the law who did his job (part of his job in addition to protecting and serving is shooting and ridding the community of potential threats - that's the reason for the gun). IF the grand jury decides a crime was committed then he will be charged and arrested. The grand jury must decide hat. Not the DA. Not the community. And not the president.
The people you refer to as witnesses are not legal witnesses until there is a trial. I could go to cnn right now and say I saw what happened In ferguson that doesn't make me a witness. About the body being left in the street for hours - that's an injustice and def should have been handled better.
As far as trust in the investigation - Barack holder the doj and the world are watching this case. Pretty hard for a conspiracy to occur with this many eyes watching. So if there is still distrust even with knowing that all these eyes are on the case then that's just too bad.
He can be both when wrongdoing is suspected. Which there was according to multiple witnesses.
Police officers should NOT be above the law. He is a citizen like everyone else who swore an oath to enforce the laws of this country. IMO, Police should be held to a HIGHER standard than the average citizen.
As soon as the shooting took place he should have called in to his superiors and the investigation process should have begun. He should have given his statement on what happened and the Police should have began to interrogate witnesses to see if the stories added up.
What took place after the Brown shooting did not seem like standard protocol.
Individual policemen can be fine, but the fact is that their training has upheld institutional racism.
In Ferguson, you have a cop who rants about race, about Muslims, about being anti-affirmative action and anti-hate crime laws, Dan Page, who also pushed Don Lemon of CNN.
You have a cop who has a history of hitting children, Eddie Boyd III.
You have a cop who not just allowed, but encouraged his police dog to urinate on Mike Brown's Memorial.
The cops also rolled over it with their cars when no other cars were being allowed on the street so they could easily have respected it.
You have the police releasing a video of a store *robbery* when they were advised not to do this - it is irrelevant to the shooting and only enraged the community - note that any time there is a black male shot the police and others try to insist he was a *thug,* no matter what he is really like. Video from other angles show him paying for the cigarillos and the store owners also have disputed the facts, but the cops and some here continue to call him a punk or thug.
Darren Wilson came to Ferguson from a different troubled police department in Jennings which has a history of racist acts against black people though we have no record of him having any incidents.
The Ferguson police chief didn't keep records of police brutality complaints and generally did not investigate unless someone died.
The Ferguson police department charged a man who was innocent of all crimes that he was picked up on of damaging city property by bleeding on their uniforms after they beat him up.
I think that the citizen distrust of this department is quite justified.
Please turn the volume up on this video. Construction workers saw the shooting and...
Which will be negated by the witness who said his hands where under or on his stomach which will be negated by the autopsy that says his hands weren't up. My point is all this testimony people bring to the internet and media BEFORE bringing it to court is doing more damage to browns side than Wilson's. The end result will be all the witnesses that are seemingly For brown will cancel each other out based on minor inconsistencies (and probably could have been corrected had they waited and gave themselves time to collect their thoughts) the only testimony left standing will be Wilson's.
Thanks for your opinion. But the reality is that both stories could be accurate. He could have been initially shot with his hands up, slumped down after he was shot, and then stumbling forward as the officer executed him.
And if you listen to how fast all of this happened there is good reason for their to be some differences in the story.
Some interesting developments... the DA is presenting alot of evidence before the grand jury, but apparently Dorian Johnson will be the star witness for Officer Wilson backing up his version of the events after cutting a deal.
What prevents public info from being used in a trial ? We know from FL. and other sunshine law states that public info like autopsy reports, redacted witness statements, crime scene photos, etc. are used at trials.
There's no valid reason in a case like this for MO. or the feds to keep everything secret.
There is no trial as of yet. Perhaps ever.
It's a closed investigation - that why info has not been officially released.
It's a closed investigation - that why info has not been officially released.
That's what we're talking about --- if a state changes law to be more open during an investigation, will it prevent the released info from being used in a trial, if there is a trial ? I'm saying as FL. proves, released info can be used in a trial.
In this case we see an autopsy done for the family, with a televised press conference. It makes no sense to keep the official autopsy secret. Witnesses with their lawyers give tv interviews. Why shouldn't redacted versions of their sworn testimony be public. The police chief told the public that Wilson knew about the cigar robbery; the public should be able to see transcript of the radio transmissions. Etc.
One reason the DOJ supposedly got involved was to ensure an open and transparent process. Balderdash.
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