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Looking at 10 years worth of data, it's statistically certain that the change in gun legislation has produced no results.
Not saying that either....but to say that one piece of the pie has nothing to do with the overall change...is wrong...and somehting you cannot back up...
Not saying that either....but to say that one piece of the pie has nothing to do with the overall change...is wrong...and somehting you cannot back up...
Statistically the change in gun control laws has produced no change in gun violence. One can say that with a high degree of statistical confidence. The hypothesis of the OP is rejected.
Statistically the change in gun control laws has produced no change in gun violence. One can say that with a high degree of statistical confidence. The hypothesis of the OP is rejected.
Then why is crime falling? Where are you getting your statistics from to make that claim?
Then why is crime falling? Where are you getting your statistics from to make that claim?
Could be many reasons, better policing, aging population, etc. Fact of the matter is other than a year or two blip (crime dropped in 2013 btw) the overall crime rate has been trending downwards since the early 1990's (peaked in 92 or 93) Despite all the talk Chicago gets, they saw a drop in crime over the past decade, saw a bit of a jump a couple years ago and then a very sharp decline last year (prior to the concealed cary laws taking effect). The drop this year seems to be more of a continuation from the drop last year and the overall decline in crime over the past decade than any change in gun laws.
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Most people can't differentiate the difference between risk and fear. They have guns because they fear crime, when the real risk is domestic violence. Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood that a resident will be shot.
No kidding....! That's like saying households that have at least 1 vehicle as opposed to walking everywhere they need to go are 100% more likely to be involved in a traffic accident!!!! People who own at least 1 dog are 100% more likely to be bitten than people who don't own one!
It's a faux statistic that proves exactly nothing, but people who are anti-gun love to use it to fool the ignorant masses who are incapable of independent thought.
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That's wonderful. It was that way at my parents house. As a ten year old we used to play with my fathers loaded 1911 0.45 when our parents weren't home. I'm sure we were perfectly safe the entire time. They did lose all the guns in a burglary however. It seems that thieves find guns very easy to fence.
I don't believe you. Prove it.
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So you do realize the change in gun laws based upon recent court decisions hasn't caused the decline in gun violence. It was happening anyway. Good
That very well may be true, I'm not going to try and argue otherwise. However, one thing that this drop does prove is that more people carrying guns on the street does NOT equate to more crime. Best cases scenario after concealed carry is adopted is the crime rate drops. Worst case? No change.
Could be many reasons, better policing, aging population, etc. Fact of the matter is other than a year or two blip (crime dropped in 2013 btw) the overall crime rate has been trending downwards since the early 1990's (peaked in 92 or 93) Despite all the talk Chicago gets, they saw a drop in crime over the past decade, saw a bit of a jump a couple years ago and then a very sharp decline last year (prior to the concealed cary laws taking effect). The drop this year seems to be more of a continuation from the drop last year and the overall decline in crime over the past decade than any change in gun laws.
It's amazing you guys are capable of such sound logic when it comes to Chicago, but then turn around and use Australia's example of gun control as a model for the United States. What you are describing as happening in Chicago, is exactly what happened in Australia. They were experiencing a downward trend in crime to start with. Then, they brought in strict gun controls, and that downward trend continued. So why do people point to the drop in crime in Australia as an example of how gun control "works"?
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