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Actually most instructors said that he should have had his hand on her right arm supporting the gun as it pulled up to the left. Have not seen one who said the guy was doing everything right. Most said he was not.
Most instructors wouldn't have been right on top of or touching someone firing live ammunition.
It breaks basic rules of sweeping and muzzle awareness. How can you be safe when you are all up on someones ass like that or anywhere near their muzzle?
It is very important to you that you be right--ok--got it.
LOL....once again, how many children have shot that same rifle....with nothing happening, except the experience of a life time?
If nothing would have happened, nobody would know about it...
That is where you fail to realize this happens more often than you care to even think about (children shooting guns like this, with NOTHING happening).
It's not about being right or wrong, this family jumped through the hoops that the anti gunners stated should happen.....why can you not accept that...
Actually most instructors said that he should have had his hand on her right arm supporting the gun as it pulled up to the left. Have not seen one who said the guy was doing everything right. Most said he was not. According to the 'gun enthusiasts' if he did everything right, this would not have happened. Unless of course, guns have a mind of their own and do in fact kill people.
HOLY CRAP....you may have FINALLY realized what the problem was.....
And then you make the last 13 words of your statement.....
Most instructors wouldn't have been right on top of or touching someone firing live ammunition.
It breaks basic rules of sweeping and muzzle awareness. How can you be safe when you are all up on someones ass like that or anywhere near their muzzle?
The fact is that there is NO acknowledged acceptable practice for nine year olds or even diminutive people. It's left to the discretion and common sense to dictate.
Much like what would occur for a person confined to a wheelchair with a degenerative muscle disease who desires to shoot.
The practice would need to be defined carefully for all contingencies such as weapons ballistics, rate of fire, arm/hand strength, a whole retinue of information would need compiling to design and format a formal policy for every contingency. There is no such formal guideline existing in range or training protocols.
Who or what organization running courses to certify firearms instructors would anticipate the need to run an example of safe instruction for a nine year old girl firing a fully-auto SMG.
"Well gentlemen today we will move on to the safe instruction method for training of 4 year olds on the 1942 model of the PIAT launcher; firstly have your student lie down on his/her back and put feet on combination cocking stirrup shoulder pad, then............"
The fact is that there is NO acknowledged acceptable practice for nine year olds or even diminutive people. It's left to the discretion and common sense to dictate.
FACT? LOL....how did they get permission to allow children to do this in the first place? Do you think the range did not have insurance, the range just went out on it's own...lol..keep thinking.....
So, the parents did not do this? How many other children have done this exact thing?
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Much like what would occur for a person confined to a wheelchair with a degenerative muscle disease who desires to shoot.
Yep, and if people/guardians thought it was acceptable and achievable and they had the PROPER INSTRUCTORS....oh wait..
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Originally Posted by BruSan
The practice would need to be defined carefully for all contingencies such as weapons ballistics, rate of fire, arm/hand strength, a whole retinue of information would need compiling to design and format a formal policy for every contingency. There is no such formal guideline existing in range or training protocols.
How do you base this information that you have provided? Go ahead, lets see a link....we will wait.
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Originally Posted by BruSan
Who or what organization running courses to certify firearms instructors would anticipate the need to run an example of safe instruction for a nine year old girl firing a fully-auto SMG.
Evidently they had to ask permission to do this, all those parents thought it was acceptable (you know, who issued a permit)
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Originally Posted by BruSan
"Well gentlemen today we will move on to the safe instruction method for training of 4 year olds on the 1942 model of the PIAT launcher; firstly have your student lie down on his/her back and put feet on combination cocking stirrup shoulder pad, then............"
LOL...another great example of a anti gunner who goes to the extreme....great job...not really, but as long as it makes you feel better....
Again, how many other children have shot that same style of weapon?
Why does everyone SKIRT this question ^^^^^^^
We know the answer, you anti gunners just refuse to answer it....
Again, how many other children have shot that same style of weapon?
Why does everyone SKIRT this question ^^^^^^^
We know the answer, you anti gunners just refuse to answer it....
So what is the answer? What I'm not sure of is why we should care. The fact that something can be done without bloodshed is not a defense to introducing deadly weapons to children as a "fun" thing to do. It is morally wrong, not just stupid.
So what is the answer? What I'm not sure of is why we should care. The fact that something can be done without bloodshed is not a defense to introducing deadly weapons to children as a "fun" thing to do. It is morally wrong, not just stupid.
Do your children ride bikes? Do they swim? Do they ride in a car?
Those are much more dangerous than what this thread is about...
LOL @ the bloodshed comment...
Is riding a motorcycle at 4 agreeable with you?
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