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"One such liar is Dr. Poul Thorsen, a Danish scientist who was indicted for stealing millions of dollars from the CDC and using it to cover up vaccine dangers. Thorsen, as you may recall, was heavily involved in producing a stream of fraudulent studies that supposedly "disproved" the now-evident link between vaccines and autism. The CDC has also continually cited Thorsen's studies as "evidence" that vaccines are safe, declaring the debate to be over in light of their findings."
"Thorsen was later caught stealing money from the CDC and using it in his home country of Denmark to produce the infamous "Denmark Study," the holy grail that supposedly settled, once and for all, the vaccine-autism debate. Except it didn't. Thorsen was indicted by a federal grand jury in Atlanta, Georgia, on charges of wire fraud, money laundering and defrauding research institutions of grant money."
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That's what they said, it doesn't make it true. Do you think they would say, "this paper has been removed because of the potential damaging and negative implications this information would have on the vaccination industry as a whole well as the CDC". No, of course they wouldn't say that. If you want to believe them, that is your choice. I'm going to with hold judgment until more information is known.
Lol! You were touting its validity as a scientific journal, and now you're accusing them of lying?
Too funny!!
"One such liar is Dr. Poul Thorsen, a Danish scientist who was indicted for stealing millions of dollars from the CDC and using it to cover up vaccine dangers. Thorsen, as you may recall, was heavily involved in producing a stream of fraudulent studies that supposedly "disproved" the now-evident link between vaccines and autism. The CDC has also continually cited Thorsen's studies as "evidence" that vaccines are safe, declaring the debate to be over in light of their findings."
"Thorsen was later caught stealing money from the CDC and using it in his home country of Denmark to produce the infamous "Denmark Study," the holy grail that supposedly settled, once and for all, the vaccine-autism debate. Except it didn't. Thorsen was indicted by a federal grand jury in Atlanta, Georgia, on charges of wire fraud, money laundering and defrauding research institutions of grant money."
Dear Lord. Yes, Thorsen defrauded the CDC. (Where "using the money to cover up vaccine dangers" come from, I can only guess. He bought a house and some nice cars. I know, facts and anti-vaxxers...)
Before that, he had contributed to (he didn't "author", but again - facts are hard) the two Danish cohort studies that the anti-vaxxers hate more than anything, because they were yet another nail in the coffin of the cherished MMR and thimerosal misconceptions.
Miss terri, I asked you how you felt about Wakefield and I think you missed it in all this noise.
I'm trying to gauge your position on the topic.
Sorry but I'm not interested in discussing Wakefield as I don't believe what happened with him is relevant to this thread.
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