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Old 09-03-2014, 04:23 PM
 
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Some customers will be offended by Happy Holidays, some by Merry Christmas, some will probably pout unless greeted with "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh Wgah'nagl fhtan".

People take offense too easily. Be it at Muslim students praying or people extending good wishes while not following a specific formula.
Yet they're probably Christmas Shopping.....oh the outrage some people like to stir up. My bet these people go to Christmas events so the CAN complain.

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No ! Retailers just figured out that "Happy Holidays" encompasses everything instead of just "Merry Christmas"! Oh you poor Christians being persecuted by the "shopping Gods"!
No retail stores saw they could push Christmas into a whole month, this would include other holidays being celebrated. There was a time Christmas was celebrated on the 24th & 25th of Dec, not 30 days of shopping!

The meaning of Christmas has changed, Christmas is just a drunk fest of credit card debt.

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Old 09-03-2014, 04:50 PM
 
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Has anyone proven that they haven't?
Yes. The public school district's superintendent was quoted in the news article linked in the OP:
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"Dr. Favela says if any students wanted to have a group of non-religious activity, the district would need to accommodate them."
The public school is providing prayer facilities for Muslims only. Any other group must limit their request to accommodations for non-religious activities.
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:54 PM
 
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Isn't there a short list of rules with lying as one of the no-nos? The 10 - something?
I didn't lie. I merely cited the public school superintendent who was quoted in the news article linked in the OP. Every other group is accommodated by the public school district for non-religious activities. Only Muslims are accommodated for prayer.
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:57 PM
 
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Yes. The public school district's superintendent was quoted in the news article linked in the OP:


The public school is providing prayer facilities for Muslims only. Any other group must limit their request to accommodations for non-religious activities.

Your dishonesty is breathtaking.

The superintendent was commenting that non-religious groups had the same rights as religious groups.

BTW, did you follow up on my suggestion that you contact your favorite religious rights organization to alert them of this case? If you seriously think there is a case here, and you don't take an obvious action to correct it, why are you passive?
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:58 PM
 
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"The separation of church and state prohibits schools from promoting religion. This probably does not present any constitutional problem as long as the same accommodation would be given to any other religion." Dr. Favela says if any students wanted to have a group of non-religious activity, the district would need to accommodate them"

SOUNDS GOOD!
Let's see if I have this straight; the school provides a room where the Muslim students can spread their prayer rugs pointing towards Mecca, and pray five times a day. Is that correct?

If so, can that room also be used as a Christian Chapel?
Can it also be used by Jewish students, if they so desire?
How about Hare Krishna students?
Druids?
Satanists?
Old Norse?
Mayan?
Navajo?
Worshipers of the Great Flying Spaghetti Monster?
Zoroastrians?
Worshipers of Zeus or Jupiter? (Greek/Roman mythology)
Of course, the Muslims may not wish to pray in a room where other religions have held services, so is there another room for the other religions?

The Good Doctor says ANY religion would be given the same accommodation.
"This probably does not present any constitutional problem as long as the same accommodation would be given to any other religion."
I think he should be put to the test!
The good doctor has already spoken:
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"Dr. Favela says if any students wanted to have a group of non-religious activity, the district would need to accommodate them."
Prayer is a religious activity for which Muslims but no other group are accommodated.
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:03 PM
 
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The good doctor has already spoken: Prayer is a religious activity for which Muslims but no other group are accommodated.
Your dishonesty is breathtaking and brazen.
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:05 PM
 
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The good doctor has already spoken: Prayer is a religious activity for which Muslims but no other group are accommodated.
Any religious group can pray or partake in the exact same activities. You don't even have to be religious to gain access to the school premises. Nobody can be discriminated against. A Muslim gets treated the same as a Catholic, snake handler, Buddhist, and an Atheist.

Seriously, why continue to lie?
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:07 PM
 
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Your dishonesty is breathtaking.

The superintendent was commenting that non-religious groups had the same rights as religious groups.
False. Doesn't say a word about that:

N4T Investigators: Church and State | KVOA.com | Tucson, Arizona

It says students are permitted to pray. It also says non-religious activities are accommodated. So why are Muslims accommodated with a specific prayer room while other groups are restricted to requests for accommodations for only non-religious activities?
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:09 PM
 
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Any religious group can pray or partake in the exact same activities. You don't even have to be religious to gain access to the school premises. Nobody can be discriminated against. A Muslim gets treated the same as a Catholic, snake handler, Buddhist, and an Atheist.
False. The public school in question has not provided prayer rooms for any of those other groups.
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:22 PM
 
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False. The public school in question has not provided prayer rooms for any of those other groups.
Would you like to place a wager? How much would you like to wager that the school is willing to provide the same or equivalent room to Christians if they asked for it? The superintendent said that they would have to accommodate all students equally.

How about $500 towards planned parenthood?

Here is her contact info. Either you or I can shoot an email over at anytime.

Superintendent | Sunnyside Unified School District
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