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What is your explanation for why it's not included on the campus map published by the college itself?
Are the foot washing stations listed on the map?
All I have to say is you should take up your issue with the college, because GMUs page is the one that details the fact that they own the chapel, and EMUs Catholic student org states that the chapel is ON campus.
Because there's no real long standing established tradition that requires audible prayer in the Christian faith. Islam, however, has an established method of prayer, which can I suppose technically be silent, it isn't unnoticeable.
Another thing to add to why the room may be necessary for Muslims but not Christians is the scheduled nature of prayer. Muslims believe they have to pray at certain times during the day. Christians don't have that. They do so as they please. If Christians wanted to sing and hold hands, they can do so at any point during the day. This can mean letting them come in before or after school to pray or do so during a lunch period. They don't have an actual "need" for a separate room.
This has nothing to do with 'need'. The law does not define 'need'.
"A federal lawsuit accusing Willis school district teachers of confiscating and throwing away Bibles and ordering students to remove religious book covers has been dropped by the legal watchdog group that filed it.
District Superintendent Kay Karr said in a written statement Thursday the lawsuit was voluntarily withdrawn by Florida-based Liberty Counsel and that 'students of Willis Independent School District have not been told they cannot bring Bibles to school, and Bibles were never thrown into the trash.'"
Bedenbender said the girls called her from school and that she calmed them and asked to speak with the teacher. An angry exchange occurred and Bedenbender alleges that Flottman threatened to have the children removed by Child Protective Services if she failed to pick them up within 30 minutes.
Bedenbender said she retrieved the Bibles from the wastebasket and left with her daughters. A week later she withdrew them from the district and began home-schooling them. Three others of her nine children are still attending school in the district, she said.
Mathew Staver, a lawyer with Liberty Counsel, said the lawsuit's withdrawal was an attempt to avoid a court battle and reach a mutually satisfying agreement between the parties involved.
Staver said if progress isn't made in two weeks he will refile the lawsuit, which was originally filed in U.S. District Court in Houston.
If you were following the conversation I was responding to, we were discussing foot baths being installed in COLLEGES. The poster I was responding to asked for proof of chapels on campuses. I provided that proof. The colleges I listed were taken directly from a link the poster I was responding to posted as having installed foot baths for Muslim students.
Fair enough.....we were discussing high school and it went to University.
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This has nothing to do with 'need'. The law does not define 'need'.
Boy if we went by people's 'needs' the schools might as well shut down. I can see this becoming a hot mess for schools.
You gave the rights Christians are suppose to have at schools. You really don't need me to post where ACLJ has many lawsuits against schools. This one is old, but shows how some teachers treat Christians at school. Bet this teacher would not say this to another person of religion.....or we would have heard about it. Media ho's and all!
The lawsuit accuses the district of four violations of the U.S. Constitution, three violations of the Texas Constitution and two violations of state laws. It asks that a judge order the district to allow the carrying of Bibles in school and the use of book covers printed with the Ten Commandments or other religious content.
"My daughters called me, were hysterical, and said, 'Mama, they took our Bibles and called them garbage and threw them in the garbage and then threatened to call Child Protective Services,' " Deborah Bedenbender, 37, a Willis homemaker, said Tuesday.
Seriously Child Protective service for carrying a Bible???
So you agree that the Christian students should be accommodated, is that right?
The situation detailed in the OP is no different.
Bedenbender said the girls called her from school and that she calmed them and asked to speak with the teacher. An angry exchange occurred and Bedenbender alleges that Flottman threatened to have the children removed by Child Protective Services if she failed to pick them up within 30 minutes.
Bedenbender said she retrieved the Bibles from the wastebasket and left with her daughters. A week later she withdrew them from the district and began home-schooling them. Three others of her nine children are still attending school in the district, she said.
Mathew Staver, a lawyer with Liberty Counsel, said the lawsuit's withdrawal was an attempt to avoid a court battle and reach a mutually satisfying agreement between the parties involved.
Staver said if progress isn't made in two weeks he will refile the lawsuit, which was originally filed in U.S. District Court in Houston.
Forgive my skepticism, but I have a hard time believing that the religious persecution of Christians is a problem in Texas.
Forgive my skepticism, but I have a hard time believing that the religious persecution of Christians is a problem in Texas.
It isn't a problem here, but some like to claim they are persecuted, facts do not come into play when it comes to their agenda.
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