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No. Liberals support the unions, not the common worker. When they did the GM bailout, the liberals protected the pensions of the union members, but not the pensions of the non-union workers.
But who had deregulated those banks in the first place? President Clinton, a Democrat. And the Republicans did not oppose bank regulation, they opposed the particular bank regulation that was being promoted by the Democrats. Wanting to stop a particular regulation and wanting to stop all regulation are not the same thing. Also, subprime loans and bank regulations are two entirely separate issues so it isn't a valid comparison.
There are no racial conflicts.
No. Conservatives support lower taxes for everyone, no matter what their income level is. Liberals do not support favorable taxes for anyone. The liberals were for repealing the Bush tax cuts completely, including the tax breaks of the lower classes. They compromised and let the lower classes keep their tax cuts only when Republicans fought them, at which point both sides agreed to let the lower brackets keep the tax breaks and remove the tax breaks for the upper classes. One of Romney's five campaign planks was no tax relief for the wealthy.
No. In the Ferguson case, Republicans came out against the police officer. In the Rodney King case, Republicans came out against the police officers too. It was Republican President Bush Sr whose Justice Department tried the officers in federal court after they were acquitted by the state.
No. Conservatives oppose special anti-bullying laws and policies. That does not mean they support bullies. It means conservatives want existing laws against assault to be applied.
Conservatives want the law to be applied fairly. Liberals want to give special exemptions and exceptions in rape cases in order to gain feminist votes. Liberals have said that rape victims should not be required to face their accusers in violation of the bill of rights which guarantees anyone accused of a crime the right to face his accuser. Liberals have said that false rape allegations should not be prosecuted, in violation of existing laws on reporting false crimes and filing false police reports. Liberals have said that the burden of proof should be lessened in rape cases in contradiction of the American justice system's innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt traditions. This does not equate to not supporting rape victims. It simply means that no victim is more important than another victim and no accused person has any less rights than another accused person.
No, conservatives support established laws and policies. It just means that it doesn't matter how angry you are, that doesn't give you a free pass to disturb the peace and damage property. Conservatives have never denied students or anyone else the right to peaceful protest. It just means conservatives don't want to give rioters and vandals a free pass simply because those rioters and vandals happen to be protesting something that is politically favorable.
I think what it is, is a big amount of ignorance on your part. You have apparently accepted liberal rhetoric without question instead of looking into the facts. Your comments about taxation, bank regulation, and labor conflicts were just flat out wrong. Not wrong in a "I disagree with your opinion" way, but wrong in a "your facts are incorrect" way.
Yeah, lets take two stereotypes without basis in reality and waste our time arguing how the other guy is like that...but our team is not. What an egregious waste of life given to us.
Could not agree more.
This thread is absurd and demonstrates the ignorance of the typical American voter.
Considering that the entire ideology of liberalism (as formulated by John Locke) is based on the defense of private property ownership...well, no one in the United States seriously challenges liberal assumptions nowadays.
What we call "liberal" and "conservative" in the US are really just names for the Democratic and Republican Parties. Americans don't have a history of deep ideological conflicts between different groups or social classes, unlike Europe. We are "exceptional" in that regard-LOL!
Yes, the conservative platform of leave us the dam alone while we put our military bases all over the world and invade/go to war with any country that doesn't do what we say.
The conservative platform is based upon freedom. Dont you think people should be free?
I got one but since you apparently confuse education with watching Fox News, let me explain to you that before the government got involved only the rich could afford sending their kids to college and when the us government got involved it sent a few millions of the poor ones via so called GI Bill, which many economists believe, allowed for the economic boom of the 50s and 60s. Thats why in 1940 there was only a 5% of population with a college degree, in 1990 it was over 22%. Thats how liberal ideas work: Effectively.
You're welcome.
WRONG.. the percentage of the population with college degrees were lower because THERE WASNT A NEED TO HAVE ONE..
You could come out of high school straight into a job.
They also had trade schools, and work programs..
Your liberal ideas work 'effectively' is utter ridiculous.. We now encourage "everyone" to get a college degree, and then come out with hundred thousand dollars in debt because we pump up the cost of education, and the net result is $9 an hour jobs..
FAILURE.. You want to take credit for it, you ahead..
I dont thank you, no need to welcome me.. I dropped out of college, ZERO DEBT, I own multiple homes, self employed, my businesses do 8 figures a year in income (gross), and you think I'm a failure simply cause I dont have a degree..
"Leave us dam alone" was ever an economic platform? Lol
Yes, yes it was. Dont remember the founding of our nation very well do you? What about all of your claims about being educated and all, because it sounds like you dont have an education.
Things like the Boston tea party was fought over a 2% tax rate on ONLY tea..
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How could we ever ask others to leave us alone when we need their oil and other resources? Lol
We dont have oil? How uneducated are you?
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You must be a Fox News fan lol
I havent turned tv on in over 5 years, and dont even have cable..
Keep your hate nonsense to yourself
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Is this why the conservative states like Alabama and Louisiana are the poorest in the nation while the liberal New Jersey and Connecticut are the richest?
We've been through this before, but you dont seem to be able to listen very well.
Those areas are high cost of living areas, if you think living in an area where the poor suffer because they cant afford to live there is "wealth", then you're a complete moron..
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Dumbing down the country? Lol. It was the federal government that sent few millions of WWIi veterans to college, veterans who couldn't otherwise dream of affording higher education, veterans who later created economic boom of the 50's and 60's.
It is the government that spends billions on science and underwrites student loans ensuring more people have a chance of getting higher education and no talent is wasted. If there is anybody dumbing down this country it is the republicans who push for absurdities such as teaching creationism in schools and oppose spending through National Science Foundation. Thats a real dumbing down of the country! Lol
Dumbing down the country is going to take out hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loans to come out and get a $9 an hour job..
Nope. As a matter of fact the upcoming economic superpowers like India build their prosperity on education. So do the Chinese. You are more wrong than you can imagine. Lol
Those areas are growing because they are taking OUR JOBS, because we're too dam stupid to keep them here due to liberal economic policies.. And they STILL cant employer their people..
Your example is exactly why we Republicans support "the big guy" because without those dam jobs, the little guy cant eat..
your answer, lets give them food stamps, I prefer they have jobs.. Thats because you hate the poor and want to make them losers, dont mind the high crime and people being KILLED because of your policies, and dont care that they all die broke because you consider them lucky they live in a nation where they have welfare, rather than jobs..
The biggest difference between Liberals and Conservatives is that from a philosophical perspective liberals typically lean more toward determinism; whereas, conservatives lean more toward libertarianism.
Translation- Conservatives have a stronger belief in the role of free will than Liberals.
I personally don't put too much weight into the concept of free will, which is why I don't buy into most conservative politics, but I also accept that life isn't always fair, so I don't buy into a good amount of liberal politics as well. Like most things in life, I feel the answer is somewhere in the middle, which is why I consider myself a political centrist outside of the social issues. Obviously if a think free will is BS, than I'm socially liberal.
Also, this post will literally fly over most people's heads.
You don't put too much weight into the concept of free will for the reason you believe mankind doesn't know the consequences of such. Man can't be held responsible for his own decisions and the outcome of such.
Should he fail, society - big government - will be there to catch him no matter why.
Should he succeed, it was by sheer dumb luck and society has no real use for him other than paying taxes.
Considering that the entire ideology of liberalism (as formulated by John Locke) is based on the defense of private property ownership...well, no one in the United States seriously challenges liberal assumptions nowadays.
What we call "liberal" and "conservative" in the US are really just names for the Democratic and Republican Parties. Americans don't have a history of deep ideological conflicts between different groups or social classes, unlike Europe. We are "exceptional" in that regard-LOL!
Who brain washed you?
Liberal was the rebranding of the Progressive Era Socialist, after WW-II and socialist communism, were the plague.
Just because you wear an R by your name, does not make you automatically a Conservative. Far from it.
The first liberal/Progressive/socialist, was a Republican.
We have not had a Conservative lead this nation, since Calvin Coolidge.
Hoover a Republican, was about as Progressive as they get.
Government can do it better than the people... Progressive. Take the choices away and control the people with the choice the government makes for them or face punishment, for maintaining your freedom and continuing to make your own choice.
Conservatives support equality for all. Without granting special privileges for special people.
Government isn't there to support the poor. They were created to maintain our freedom and liberties and sovereign individuals. Equal access to government services. If one gets it, we all get it as individuals. Government should never pick winners & loser
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