What is wrong with retail/service being paid a "liveable" wage? (roads, employment)

[Opin_Yunated]

Originally Posted by Driller1

I did it.

It taught me I did not like being poor.........that was good for me.

Originally Posted by lifeexplorer

I did it myself with far less when I was poor. That taught me that I didn't want to worry about money ever again.

So, every other poor person should be "punished" for being poor? They need to be taught a lesson? Are you going to spank them too?

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated

Cry me a river!!!

That sounds like a bargain compared to the low-wage worker making 3 minimum wage jobs, 90 hours a week without being able to afford daycare.

oh please...

if they were self motivated, and obtained a SKILL, then they would be paid according to that skill

min wage is for UNSKILLED workers


btw if they 'are' working that many hours for min wage and 'cant afford' daycare...assistance is available as dss




come on everybody, let's scare a liberal...say it loud and proud.... """"pay for performance"""

[lifeexplorer]

Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated

Why are you rationalizing a starvation level wage?

This assumes a few things:

1) You actually get 40 hours per week (most min wage jobs won't consistently).
2) No emergencies happen



Irrelevant.

How's that irrelevant? If I make the minimum wage while complaining that I can afford to make payments for my Porsche, you would jump upside down criticizing me for buying the Porsche.

Why having children when you can't afford them?

[Opin_Yunated]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

oh please...

if they were self motivated, and obtained a SKILL, then they would be paid according to that skill

min wage is for UNSKILLED workers

come on everybody, let's scare a liberal...say it loud and proud.... """"pay for performance"""

So "unskilled" workers deserve starvation wages?

(starvation wages would classify as still needing the SNAP program)

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated

So, every other poor person should be "punished" for being poor? They need to be taught a lesson? Are you going to spank them too?

well since you are so opinionated.....TEACH THEM A SKILL


or should we just give them a hand out since they are too stupid to learn a skill, that pays


please, stand up and teach, oh mighty opinionated one

[lifeexplorer]

Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated

So, every other poor person should be "punished" for being poor? They need to be taught a lesson? Are you going to spank them too?

Who's punishing them? I said my experience of being poor taught me something. If your experience of being poor didn't teach you anything, so be it.

[Opin_Yunated]

Originally Posted by lifeexplorer

How's that irrelevant? If I make the minimum wage while complaining that I can afford to make payments for my Porsche, you would jump upside down criticizing me for buying the Porsche.

Strawman. A Porsche and food / rent are not comparable.

Originally Posted by lifeexplorer

Why having children when you can't afford them?

Why don't you go into a poor neighborhood and ask them?

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated

So "unskilled" workers deserve starvation wages?

(starvation wages would classify as still needing the SNAP program)

so you are saying???? you don't have the want or desire to teach them a skill

or are you too unskilled to teach a skill

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated

So "unskilled" workers deserve starvation wages?

(starvation wages would classify as still needing the SNAP program)

Have you gone to your city council meeting to ask them to raise the min wage in your city ?
SeaTac and Seattle did it and now the effort is underway in Bellevue.

[Opin_Yunated]

Originally Posted by lifeexplorer

Who's punishing them? I said my experience of being poor taught me something. If your experience of being poor didn't teach you anything, so be it.

By suppressing the minimum wage, you are implying they need to "get a skill" or accept starvation. That is attempting to impose your values on the poor through deliberate wage suppression.

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

well since you are so opinionated.....TEACH THEM A SKILL

or should we just give them a hand out since they are too stupid to learn a skill, that pays

please, stand up and teach, oh mighty opinionated one

You're giving them a handout anyway, because they aren't earning enough to eat.