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Old 09-06-2014, 12:52 PM
 
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If folks want higher wages.. maybe they should DEMAND Wal-mart start carrying made in the USA and start purchasing those items. Money talks... Bull sh*t walks. If Wal-mart felt it.. would they make a change?
That isn't Wal-Marts fault. It's yours (said in the generalization sense). When Wal-Mart undercut another dept store with a Chinese made item, we flocked to them to buy it.
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Old 09-06-2014, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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Again, there is no proof that it is actually the minimum wage earners protesting. Quite the opposite.

It's in part those who ran some of these jobs overseas doing to whining. I say that not being absolutely anti-union as if that is what people want they should be able to do that, just don't go running people out of even more jobs.
I have so many mixed emotions about unions. I am pro private unions and against public unions. It used to be that union workers (at least in hubbies line of work) were better skilled, better trained, had a much safer working record, etc.) They still do.. for the most part. However; with that being said... the gap is closing fast.. and union management sure doesn't do themselves any favors when it comes to how they are perceived.
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Old 09-06-2014, 01:06 PM
 
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That isn't Wal-Marts fault. It's yours (said in the generalization sense). When Wal-Mart undercut another dept store with a Chinese made item, we flocked to them to buy it.

WTF did you expect poor people to do? Shop at other stores they cannot afford???

Why is it that with some people, poor people are damned if they do and damned if they don't?
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Old 09-06-2014, 01:12 PM
 
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Unfortunately its easier to set back, whine about only receiving minimum wage, and wait for all those factory blue-collar jobs to appear back on our horizon. Wal-mart itself could be an excellent source if they would go back to their "Made in the USA" mode.

Walmart is an excellent source of vitamins A, C, and E.

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Old 09-06-2014, 01:13 PM
 
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WTF did you expect poor people to do? Shop at other stores they cannot afford???

Why is it that with some people, poor people are damned if they do and damned if they don't?
If I hear you right, the poor demand lower price but higher pay.

How would you expect the business such as Walmart to function under that kind of requirement?
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Old 09-06-2014, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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That isn't Wal-Marts fault. It's yours (said in the generalization sense). When Wal-Mart undercut another dept store with a Chinese made item, we flocked to them to buy it.
Actually I didn't. I've never liked Wal-mart... but yes.. I understand what you are saying. But doesn't the government have some responsibility in this equation as well. Instead of making it easier for Wal-mart to buy those Chinese products and sell them so cheaply, perhaps, just maybe they should have taken the "Let's look out for our own manufacturing" position?
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Old 09-06-2014, 01:16 PM
 
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Could anybody from the supporters of this paying liveabld wage idea tell me where the money must come from to pay for the wage increase?

Any other points are moo until you can answer this question.

That is why, while the herd clamors for a living wage, I find a solution in the other direction, through lower cost of living for low-wage workers. Which conservatives also dislike.
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Old 09-06-2014, 01:20 PM
 
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If I hear you right, the poor demand lower price but higher pay.

How would you expect the business such as Walmart to function under that kind of requirement?

I'm not sure whether both demands come from the same people; I view lower prices as preferable to higher pay.
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Old 09-06-2014, 01:23 PM
 
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WTF did you expect poor people to do? Shop at other stores they cannot afford???
People should look at the big picture as to what they can afford.

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Why is it that with some people, poor people are damned if they do and damned if they don't?
They would be less damned if the jobs were still here. You will note that I blame the politicians for this far more than the people even though it still comes down to the people voting them in.

Yes, you are responsible for yourself, poor, middle class or rich.
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Old 09-06-2014, 01:24 PM
 
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That is why, while the herd clamors for a living wage, I find a solution in the other direction, through lower cost of living for low-wage workers. Which conservatives also dislike.
We'd all like a lower cost of living... but realistically it will be just like ObamaCare. Were we not told that medical costs would go down when everyone had OCare? Are medical costs going down? LOLOLOL Conservatives like plans that make fiscal sense... there's a difference. Tell me how to lower the cost of living for people without putting your hand in my pocket again and again. Convince me it can be done. (And don't give me the you rent and government is keeping you down story.) Tell us how you would lower the cost of living for all Americans........
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