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The English built those countries so obviously they are there. Dont use somthing that happened centuries ago and try to justify demographic displacement. If this was happening today in africa or somewhere else you would be crying racism etc.
England did not "build" any of those countries. I think you're creating your own alternate reality.
Hardly any immigration turns to "not accepting the rule of law". What on earth are you talking about??
I am talking about this:
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Originally Posted by Mag3.14
I agree that it takes two to tango, and there are those who don't want to assimilate. However, that is not an excuse to expect immigrants to change who they are and where they come from.
For me it is simple, when a person immigrates they leave their old selves at the entrance, if not, do not immigrate. The larger the group that is immigrating, the bigger the problem if they do not assimilate.
What I am talking about is what those who continue to look away will never see. Of course a person cannot change certain things, and if I take my family to another country, we will continue to celebrate Sinterklaas. But we will not refuse Santa Claus. One of the problems in Holland is having immigrants coming into Holland and not accepting Sinterklaas. Refusing to give women a hand if they are a man. That is just two examples.
That is refusing our culture, our laws and our traditions. And that gives all immigrants a bad name.
For me it is simple, when a person immigrates they leave their old selves at the entrance, if not, do not immigrate. The larger the group that is immigrating, the bigger the problem if they do not assimilate.
What I am talking about is what those who continue to look away will never see. Of course a person cannot change certain things, and if I take my family to another country, we will continue to celebrate Sinterklaas. But we will not refuse Santa Claus. One of the problems in Holland is having immigrants coming into Holland and not accepting Sinterklaas. Refusing to give women a hand if they are a man. That is just two examples.
That is refusing our culture, our laws and our traditions. And that gives all immigrants a bad name.
The Dutch, like the English, were players in the creation of our contemporary economy of global trade and migration. If you don't like it, blame your forefathers.
Diversity can be great but there really must be some dehree of assimilation. If you immigrate to another country, you should understand and embrace at least some of the cultural traditions, and learn to speak the language. If you are only immigrating for a meal ticket you are not an asset to the country. For example, I cannot fathom why Muslim extremists move to the UK and try to push sharia law. If that is what you want, there are plenty of countries still lovong in the 4th century. Move there instead.
As an immigrant from the US i do have an advantage speaking English, but there are still pretty significant cultural differences. I have no respect for people who come to a new country and expect it to bend to yheir whims.
The Dutch, like the English, were players in the creation of our contemporary economy of global trade and migration. If you don't like it, blame your forefathers.
Wrong. The ones to blame are the liberal left wing cowards who hate their own kind and country so much they sell out whatever traditions, culture, laws and language that we have.
Diversity can be great but there really must be some dehree of assimilation. If you immigrate to another country, you should understand and embrace at least some of the cultural traditions, and learn to speak the language. If you are only immigrating for a meal ticket you are not an asset to the country. For example, I cannot fathom why Muslim extremists move to the UK and try to push sharia law. If that is what you want, there are plenty of countries still lovong in the 4th century. Move there instead.
As an immigrant from the US i do have an advantage speaking English, but there are still pretty significant cultural differences. I have no respect for people who come to a new country and expect it to bend to yheir whims.
I agree in terms of embracing new culture and "fitting in" so to speak. In terms of extremists moving to the UK to "push Sharia law" - much of religious fanatacism is actually home grown. Most "extremists" are actually born in the country.
I don't understand, when immigration has had such a positive economic benefit to the UK you hear points like you're raising above.
For me it is simple, when a person immigrates they leave their old selves at the entrance, if not, do not immigrate. The larger the group that is immigrating, the bigger the problem if they do not assimilate.
What I am talking about is what those who continue to look away will never see. Of course a person cannot change certain things, and if I take my family to another country, we will continue to celebrate Sinterklaas. But we will not refuse Santa Claus. One of the problems in Holland is having immigrants coming into Holland and not accepting Sinterklaas. Refusing to give women a hand if they are a man. That is just two examples.
That is refusing our culture, our laws and our traditions. And that gives all immigrants a bad name.
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Originally Posted by HockeyAndRugby
Wrong. The ones to blame are the liberal left wing cowards who hate their own kind and country so much they sell out whatever traditions, culture, laws and language that we have.
What if I don't want to accept "Santa Claus" and I'm from the UK?? (by the way, he isn't real ). I have immigrated to the US - should I have "left myself" at customs in Chicago? Who should I be now? Surely not a liberal left wing commie socialist tree huggin coward right?
I agree in terms of embracing new culture and "fitting in" so to speak. In terms of extremists moving to the UK to "push Sharia law" - much of religious fanatacism is actually home grown. Most "extremists" are actually born in the country.
I don't understand, when immigration has had such a positive economic benefit to the UK you hear points like you're raising above.
Of course immigration has a positive impact on the UK. I've contribut3d quite a bit to ghe economy myself. I just find it lpusy when people immigrate to a wealthy country with zero iinterest in becoming part of that country. I see it here, and I saw it in yhe Southwestern US with a fair amount if Mexican immigrants.
Here is an example of immigrants refusing the culture of their new country. It also explains why so many people think that multiculturalism has failed.
Here is an example of immigrants refusing the culture of their new country. It also explains why so many people think that multiculturalism has failed.
Oh God, what a rediculous post. I don't know where to begin with your silly arguments. I'm going to leave this thread because it will descend into an anti Muslim/immigrant discussion based on racism. You will accuse others of calling you a racist rather than accepting reality.
This is a piece I copied from the article YOU just posted. .
This is of course not a commonly-held view in the Muslim community*and Islamic charities have been*quick to dismiss*the campaign, calling the pig non-offensive.
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). I have immigrated to the US - should I have "left myself" at customs in Chicago? Who should I be now? Surely not a liberal left wing commie socialist tree huggin coward right? 
