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The funny thing about this thread there are very few Tea Party-2nd Amendment advocates who have a child under the age of 30 or have a clue about raising children or who have ever been to a PTA meeting.. Typical Tea Partying 2nd Amendment advocate has children ..... they are his collection of 30 or more guns...they dont have a clue about children. Next thing Tea Party types will want will be to arm children in school...think that is absurd...think again the Tea Party types want guns on the school grounds.
There is nothing whatsoever in the Second Amendment that says you have to be a parent in order to bring your firearms to an elementary school talent show. These events are open to the public and maybe you just enjoy music or want to see how the kids in your area are doing. Why should you be forced to go in there unarmed and helpless?
Crime can happen anywhere and you need adequate firepower to protect your interests. People may assume that a second grade school play is a safe environment but where is the evidence of that? Has anyone checked the premises to verify that there are no bad guys hiding out? Is anyone monitoring the entry points to make sure thugs are not sneaking in? And how do you know the other parents and their children are law-abiding? How you know they even are who they claim to be?
Also bear in mind that these schools are run by the government and the teachers, piano players and custodians are agents of the state who could shower down on you at any time. The whole second point of the Second Amendment is to enable you to fight off a tyrannical government.
Rights or not, schools are "gun free zones" we have to abide by those rules. If we don't like it we must start petitioning our elected officials.
Sadly the criminals don't care if it is a gun free zone or not though... to them it is a safe easy soft target.
You forgot that the mass shootings in American schools were not committed by criminals.
There is a reason why schools are gun-free zones and criminals have not much to do with them.
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Rights or not, schools are "gun free zones" we have to abide by those rules. If we don't like it we must start petitioning our elected officials.
Sadly the criminals don't care if it is a gun free zone or not though... to them it is a safe easy soft target.
Rights or not, schools are "gun free zones" we have to abide by those rules. If we don't like it we must start petitioning our elected officials.
Sadly the criminals don't care if it is a gun free zone or not though... to them it is a safe easy soft target.
That's exactly what the point of this thread is (or at least the lawsuit in the article). Our state legislature passed a law that says "school carry ok" but the government wants to pretend it doesn't exist.
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You forgot that the mass shootings in American schools were not committed by criminals.
Then who were they committed by if not criminals?
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There is a reason why schools are gun-free zones and criminals have not much to do with them.
Then what does it have to do with? Why are schools so special and fragile that the mere presence of a harmless piece of metal is to be forbidden?
That's exactly what the point of this thread is (or at least the lawsuit in the article). Our state legislature passed a law that says "school carry ok" but the government wants to pretend it doesn't exist.
Then who were they committed by if not criminals? nutjobs with guns
Then what does it have to do with? Why are schools so special and fragile that the mere presence of a harmless piece of metal is to be forbidden?
Can you not see the irony with posting that bolded portion?
There is nothing whatsoever in the Second Amendment that says you have to be a parent in order to bring your firearms to an elementary school talent show. These events are open to the public and maybe you just enjoy music or want to see how the kids in your area are doing. Why should you be forced to go in there unarmed and helpless?
Crime can happen anywhere and you need adequate firepower to protect your interests. People may assume that a second grade school play is a safe environment but where is the evidence of that? Has anyone checked the premises to verify that there are no bad guys hiding out? Is anyone monitoring the entry points to make sure thugs are not sneaking in? And how do you know the other parents and their children are law-abiding? How you know they even are who they claim to be?
Also bear in mind that these schools are run by the government and the teachers, piano players and custodians are agents of the state who could shower down on you at any time. The whole second point of the Second Amendment is to enable you to fight off a tyrannical government.
Absolutely loved this one! Great job of using satire to make a point about the fear driven, obsessive compulsive need to go strapped into a damn primary school. Kudos!
You forgot that the mass shootings in American schools were not committed by criminals.
There is a reason why schools are gun-free zones and criminals have not much to do with them.
I should have rephrased that, those crimes were not commited by legal CPL holders.
Ordinary people who went nuts. It can happen to everybody and that's why I don't want anybody with a gun, other than the law, around my kids.
You folks believe that the world consists of two categories only: the bad guys - criminals, and the good guys - "the law biding citizens" who never get crazy or jealous to the point of shooting their wife. In reality the distinction is much less clear and much less obvious. It also can change at any given time.
Ordinary people who went nuts. It can happen to everybody and that's why I don't want anybody with a gun, other than the law, around my kids.
You folks believe that the world consists of bad guy - criminals, and good guys - "the law biding citizens" who never get crazy or jealous to the point of shooting their wife. In reality the distinction is much less clear and much less obvious.
Anyone might go nuts, everyone should be locked up in a padded cell, it's for the children
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Kudos!
