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Old 09-12-2014, 08:47 AM
 
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Among the ungodly, I do not expect them to live as though they were godly at all, it would be false and inappropriate.
Among those whom actually have relationship with God and His personal instruction in their life ,these choices are strictly between God and them.
It is not even up to believers to govern one another ,It is one's own responsibility to see to it they obey God in their own life.
This does not defend nor condemn this action of abortion, except that, of "the believer only" must come to grips that their actions are accountable to God ,greater than to man.
The unbeliever is consigned to condemnation, no matter how well they behave,, having remained in rebellion to God.
The disobedient believer is under greater judgment, having the opportunity in hand, and turning to rebellion again.
Well, there you go. Even your God is telling you other people's choices are none of your business. If there is judgement to be meted out, leave it to him.

That should end the discussion.

 
Old 09-12-2014, 10:03 AM
 
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Originally Posted by arleigh View Post
Among the ungodly, I do not expect them to live as though they were godly at all, it would be false and inappropriate.
Among those whom actually have relationship with God and His personal instruction in their life ,these choices are strictly between God and them.
It is not even up to believers to govern one another ,It is one's own responsibility to see to it they obey God in their own life.
This does not defend nor condemn this action of abortion, except that, of "the believer only" must come to grips that their actions are accountable to God ,greater than to man.
The unbeliever is consigned to condemnation, no matter how well they behave,, having remained in rebellion to God.
The disobedient believer is under greater judgment, having the opportunity in hand, and turning to rebellion again.
Strange that can ramble on and on about God yet cannot answer the simple question when asked what sin the woman is committing by having an abortion. Typical of fanatics that believe and act as if they know more than they actually do.
 
Old 09-12-2014, 10:04 AM
 
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Well, there you go. Even your God is telling you other people's choices are none of your business. If there is judgement to be meted out, leave it to him.

That should end the discussion.
Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen, those that insist on controlling other peoples lives rarely give up, even in the face of reason.
 
Old 09-12-2014, 12:16 PM
 
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Sin is not the "list of sins"
Sin is self govern, setting aside God's govern .
Adam and Eves sin is not even among the list in the big TEN commandments.
They chose to disobey a direct instruction. That is sin.
A man with out God's instruction can do nothing but sin.
 
Old 09-12-2014, 12:20 PM
 
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Sin is not the "list of sins"
Sin is self govern, setting aside God's govern .
Adam and Eves sin is not even among the list in the big TEN commandments.
They chose to disobey a direct instruction. That is sin.
A man with out God's instruction can do nothing but sin.
complete and utter bs. man can figure out right and wrong without god. btw which god?
 
Old 09-12-2014, 01:19 PM
 
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Sin is not the "list of sins"
Sin is self govern, setting aside God's govern .
Adam and Eves sin is not even among the list in the big TEN commandments.
They chose to disobey a direct instruction. That is sin.
A man with out God's instruction can do nothing but sin.

The problem with religion is that man injects himself in it in place of God. The above is a prime example. I kept my Christianity, but unburdened myself from organized religion.

NONE of us have a right to point at another and say "sinner".
 
Old 09-12-2014, 01:24 PM
 
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The problem with religion is the same problem with the State. It accepts the idea that a fictional entity has some omnipotent plan that invalidates any individual's freedom to deviate from that delusion of God or State.
 
Old 09-12-2014, 09:23 PM
 
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the unwanted children in foster care are not babies. Babies going into foster care get adopted. The ones that do not our pre teens or teenagers that enter foster care
Or babies with special needs. Let's not forget about them. The kids who are born drug addicted or with HIV or with down syndrome or with physical disabilities often go into foster care.
 
Old 09-13-2014, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Or babies with special needs. Let's not forget about them. The kids who are born drug addicted or with HIV or with down syndrome or with physical disabilities often go into foster care.
5 percent of the kids in foster care are under 1
 
Old 09-13-2014, 03:41 PM
 
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5 percent of the kids in foster care are under 1
Because babies have a better chance of being adopted.
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