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Old 09-10-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by Kreutz View Post
Diversity is poison. Homogeneous countries are always more peaceful, ordered, and efficient.
This is 100% accurate. The question is, what are you going to do about it? As someone else mentioned, there is already diversity here, it isn't practical to either to kick everyone out or forcefully assimilate them.

I mean, Texans don't have the same culture/laws as New Yorkers.

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Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated View Post
Japan has been in recession for 20+ years. Inflation is just above 0%. Demand has been stagnant for just as long. Debt / GDP ratio has skyrocketed to ~250%.

This all has to do with their 1.21 birth rate + aging population.
I agree that the main problem is birthrates. The question is, what should be done about it? From a social perspective, is it actually wise to invite in foreigners to Japan? They have already been inviting in a number of Koreans, and the crime rate is much higher among the Koreans than among ethnic Japanese. So much so that it is causing significant political pushback.

If Japan needs higher birthrates, isn't that a problem they could potentially solve on their own? Wouldn't an internal increase in birthrates be a much better option than importing a bunch of foreigners?

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In the 80s Japan experienced extraordinary growth with the same low birth rate and aging population.
This statement isn't exactly correct. In 1973 the Japanese birthrate was 2.14(higher than the replacement rate). By 2005 it had fallen to 1.25. Basically, the last generation of replacement-rate "workers" was born in 1973. Meaning the earliest date of entry into the workforce would have been 1989(being 16-years old). Which coincidentally is the first year that Japan fell into recession. Every year since 1989 has seen a decrease in the total number of workers.

https://www.google.com/publicdata/ex...EU&hl=en&dl=en

Japanese Recession - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Of course, that isn't exactly why Japan has fallen into a long recession. There are other factors. One of them being a monetary, financial, and real-estate collapse brought on largely be government intervention in those markets. Tie a real-estate bubble bursting and an economic downturn in with a constantly reduced workforce, and you have a pretty bad situation.

Plaza Accord - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Regardless, people are missing the point. The issue was about "social/cultural turmoil", not about economics. Homogeneous populations tend to have less things to fight about, and tend to be more willing to work together, especially in times of crisis. There are absolutely no benefits for diversity from a social perspective. It creates nothing but problems.

That doesn't mean you could ever get rid of diversity entirely. Diversity abounds even within relatively homogeneous populations. White people aren't all the same, trust me. Neither are all protestants the same. Of course that isn't the point. The point is, protestants tend to be more similar to each other than they are to everyone else. At least on average.

If we look at the "Amish" as an example of a "true" homogeneous population. There is basically no crime and very few social issues. Though, I wouldn't even consider them homogeneous. There are multiple sects of Amish, and divisions even within those sects.


So the question as I mentioned before is, even if homogeneity would be "beneficial", is it even possible? How would you go about creating it, and pretend for the sake of argument that you are a minority who already lives in America.

 
Old 09-10-2014, 02:00 PM
 
Location: USA
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Japan is probably one of the most homogeneous populations on Earth & look how they reacted to the large earthquake/tsunami & Fukushima disaster. People remained calm, orderly, and helped one another out.

Now let's imagine here in the US, the New Madrid fault lets the big one rip. What will things look like in Memphis and St. Louis?

I can assure it would be WAY different.
 
Old 09-10-2014, 02:56 PM
 
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Yes, it has. Now you have other groups coming in, both legally and illegally--and want us to pander to them and THEIR needs, their culture and their religion.

DL pictures with a veil, working as a cashier in a supermarket and refusing to touch pork products, etc.

Voting ballots--with any given population in an area exceeding roughly 5%, ballots have to be printed in English and one or more of the other languages. For Los Angeles, this means not only English and Spanish, but a whole host of other languages.

More Foreign-Born Americans Voting in Native Languages

Screw that. Why should taxpayers and individual counties be forced to pay for this crap?

We would have a lot fewer conflicts in this country if we would quit encouraging multiculturalism--especially when it hits us in the pocketbook. People are free to practice whatever culture and speak whatever language in their own homes and private gatherings, but when it comes to the general public, we should not be forced to accommodate them.
Agreed, and out in mainstream assimilation should be occurring not babbling colonization.
 
Old 09-10-2014, 02:58 PM
 
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- socially, culturally, etc. - it was more ethnically homogeneous?
No.
 
Old 09-10-2014, 03:00 PM
 
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- socially, culturally, etc. - it was more ethnically homogeneous?
There are places that are ethnically homogeneous and have so much upheaval. The issue is about respecting one another.
 
Old 09-10-2014, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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There are places that are ethnically homogeneous and have so much upheaval. The issue is about respecting one another.
Which places are ethnically/culturally homogeneous and have a lot of upheaval?
 
Old 09-10-2014, 03:52 PM
 
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Which places are ethnically/culturally homogeneous and have a lot of upheaval?
One place to consider is Haiti.
 
Old 09-10-2014, 03:54 PM
 
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One place to consider is Haiti.
Any places that are not 3rd world?Also ever considered that maybe the places that aren't destroyed totally has something to do with IQ or a togetherness? A sense of community etc.
 
Old 09-10-2014, 03:55 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Which places are ethnically/culturally homogeneous and have a lot of upheaval?
- Brazil
- Greece
- Colombia
- Iraq
- SEVERAL African nations...
 
Old 09-10-2014, 03:56 PM
 
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Any places that are not 3rd world?
Whether or not it was a 3rd world nation isn't the point.
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