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If you are an atheist the oath would mean nothing to you. So why does it have to be an issue?
The amazing thing to me in some of this conversation is the assumption that is you are an atheist that for some reason suddenly swearing a oath means nothing.
Does this mean the only reason some of the religious people keep their word, or their oaths is that they're afraid of what god might do? That the only reason they are good people is their fear of hell?
Most atheists I know value their oath very highly.
I dunno. My baby brother was in for 6 years. My stepson, too. They seem kinda desperate to me.
They? (Your brother and your stepson?)
Well, there are desperate (whatever that means)folks in every career field. Doesn't really prove anything.
The bottom line is that Air force has corrected the mistake. This is not a holy war.Regular folks gave up their constitutional right to join the armed forces to protect us. Pretty darn impressive to me.
"And a Pentagon official said the issue is settled — and the Air Force is wrong.
"There is no legal requirement to say 'so help me God' in any federal oath or affirmation by a person taking the oath," said the official, who was not authorized to speak on the matter. "Saying 'so help me God' in any federal oath is optional at the discretion of the person taking the oath, not the person administering the oath."
""We're certainly more than willing to work with this airman," Cody said. "We are certainly more than willing to have him re-enlist. We don't hold any religious beliefs or nonbeliefs in any way, shape or form in context of that decision. We're not trying to not support this airman. We just have to make sure we're in compliance with the law."
Obviously for some of you who got offended easy, it is still not good enough for you. But guess what? World does not revolved around YOU or ME. Get over it.
Obviously for some of you who got offended easy, it is still not good enough for you. But guess what? World does not revolved around YOU or ME. Get over it.
An anonymous source at the Pentagon stating he believes the Air Force's legal interpretation is wrong doesn't mean the Air Force has changed its policy. The Air Force has not changed its policy. The Air Force had not corrected its mistake, and your quotes from Mr. Cody say just that.
An anonymous source at the Pentagon stating he believes the Air Force's legal interpretation is wrong doesn't mean the Air Force has changed its policy. The Air Force has not changed its policy. The Air Force had not corrected its mistake, and your quotes from Mr. Cody say just that.
I won't lose my sleep over this. I trust Pentagon to make the right decision. If you want to worry about it, go ahead or stay tuned for the rest or the update of this "story."
Bottom line, Pentagon stated Air Force was wrong. If this is not good enough for you, oh well.
I won't lose my sleep over this. I trust Pentagon to make the right decision. If you want to worry about it, go ahead or stay tuned for the rest or the update of this "story."
Bottom line, Pentagon stated Air Force was wrong. If this is not good enough for you, oh well.
Damn straight it's not good enough. It will only be good enough when the Air Force no longer imposes an unconstitutional religious test in order to enlist.
It's only the Air Force. It appears it has been allowed to slip under the influence of a group of high-placed Evangelicals, who - as could be expected - just love to be able to proselytize to a captive audience.
Like preaching Atheism and homosexual propaganda to kids in the public schools?
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