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The GAO said Obama broke the law when he traded the Gitmo prisoners. The House has not yet begun impeachment proceedings. The argument put forth (on here) is that the DOJ will refuse to prosecute so there is no reason to go forward with impeachment.
The GAO said Obama broke the law when he traded the Gitmo prisoners. The House has not yet begun impeachment proceedings. The argument put forth (on here) is that the DOJ will refuse to prosecute so there is no reason to go forward with impeachment.
Impeachment is a separate process from a court trial resulting in legal penalties.
If the basic reason why Congressional Rs have not initiated impeachment is because the DOJ will not press criminal charges - well, that sounds like a (rather lame) excuse to me, frankly.
After all, the GAO has just opined that Obama broke the law. Isn't this the smoking gun that Rs have been waiting for? Shouldn't the Rs go for it, regardless of the DOJ?
So the people defending this bullying corrupt administration, you honestly don't think they targeted D'Souza based on his political views and criticism of this president?
(Esp after what we have learned regarding the targeting of conservatives through the IRS)
No I do not and you just proved what I said earlier about cons thinking they're above the law. You think that just because he's a conservative then holding him accountable for breaking the law is automatically a targeting of his political views and criticism of the President.
If a Republican wins in 2016 will us liberals be able to attack the President and then break the law and when the DOJ comes after us claim that they're targeting us for our political views?
Impeachment is a separate process from a court trial resulting in legal penalties.
Yes, but I don't know if the broken law has criminal penalties attached. Impeachment has a rather vague threshold of "high crimes and misdemeanors" and I don't think a sitting POTUS can be tried before he is impeached.
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If the basic reason why Congressional Rs have not initiated impeachment is because the DOJ will not press criminal charges -
I think it's just a cop out, but conservatives (on here) have said the DOJ won't prosecute. I'm not too familiar with impeachment, but they said the DOJ needs to appoint the special prosecutor and that Eric Holder won't appoint because he is protecting Obama.
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well, that sounds like a (rather lame) excuse to me, frankly.
I agree.
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After all, the GAO has just opined that Obama broke the law. Isn't this the smoking gun that Rs have been waiting for? Shouldn't the Rs go for it, regardless of the DOJ?
Yes, unless the Congressional R's don't really believe he committed any crimes, in which case conservatives need to stop complaining.
No, he plead guilty as he didn't wish to be b ankrupted by having the entire might of the US government taking vengeance on him for opposing Obama.
Seeing as he has at no point denied breaking the law - willingly - it appears you may have to consider the possibility that he plead guilty because he was, y'know, guilty.
Is D'Souza's sentence outside the norm for the crime he committed? If not, I'm not sure what the fuss is about.
Fair question... and I would be lying if I told you I knew the answer.
I would be interested to know what the average sentence is for a similar infraction. I would THINK a fine.
Lets put it in perspective with a quick comparison...
D'Souza compensated two persons to give checks (of 4,999 ea or maybe 9,999, $1 under the max so a 10-20K infraction) to his friend from college running for office. 16 months (1.33 yrs)
Jesse Jackson Jr "misused" (ie. stole) 750K in campaign contributions for personal use (vacations, etc). 2.5 yrs
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