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Old 09-19-2014, 06:26 PM
 
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It appears to me that he left on top.

 
Old 09-19-2014, 07:55 PM
 
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Why would Middle East Christians care about Israel being democratic? I doubt Middle Eastern Christians have much faith in democracy. You're projecting your values. Democracy is dangerous for minority groups there. Western? They may be Christian, but their culture and background is still Middle Eastern, though they do have more in common with the west than most others there. And allying on values alone is foolish, shared political interests matter.

In the lebanese civil war [from wikipedia]:

During the course of the fighting, alliances shifted rapidly and unpredictably: by the end of the war, nearly every party had allied with and subsequently betrayed every other party at least once.
Good Point - you have to understand that "Democracy" (as we know it) has never really existed in this area of the world. Alliances are all about Survival. Most (not all ) "Middle East Christians" are Arabs by Law in the countries they live in. For instance - the TAIF Agreement in 1995 for Lebanon, included that ALL citizens of Lebanon were Arabs.

The people that live in this area have a totally different Reality than is commonly understood in Western Culture - it doesn't make any sense at all to assume they "think" or live as we do.

The main concern is to "Survive", and they do what they must (for the most part) to reach that goal.
 
Old 09-25-2014, 08:51 AM
 
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There is no such a thing as Arab Christians. Christians are Christians and Arabs are Arabs. Different cultures, different languages.
wrong!!! And very ignorant, but typical thinking way to go!!!


 
Old 09-25-2014, 08:54 AM
 
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[quote] Originally Posted by random_thoughts
There is no such a thing as Arab Christians. Christians are Christians and Arabs are Arabs. Different cultures, different languages.
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Christianity is not an ethnic group, Arabs are!
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