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We SHOULD quit wasting American lives and money fighting for the people of the Middle East. If they want ISIS gone, they can do the fighting and dying. Stopping ISIS's actions in the ME is not worth an American life.
You either misinformed or willfully ignorant.
ISIS is not the creation of the ME, but of this administration. For some reason, the US is pretty good at creating terrorist groups and pretty bad at destroying what they created.
Wait, Obama said he had no strategy to fight ISIS like last week. Now he has a strategy?
And why is this administration so scared to use the words Radical Islam? Because that is what this terror group is - Radical Islamists who want to topple governments and set up a theocratic dictatorship throughout the Middle East.
Calling them what they are would be politically incorrect. No different than calling someone who is illegally in the US an "illegal". It's offensive. He doesn't want to offend these extremist radicals because he's going to pitch his "hope and change" to them.
Generals win or lose wars, not Presidents. The military devises plans, not the President.
You 2 can blame President Obama all you want, but the military did not have a plan and its the military who is telling him that there is no real victory here.
War is not as cut and dry as you people want to believe.
Not true. The military had several plans and Obama dismissed their plans, and dismissed them. If this brainiac is such a genius when it comes to "planning", why didn't he come up with a plan when he was becoming more and more aware of ISIS almost a year ago?
Bold: I bet you are one of those people who believe that Obama killed OBL?? Yup. He came up with the plan and then killed him.
You are right, War has a technical definition defined by US Code and law.
However, lets not play coy either, you no what i mean when i saw war. And you also know my post is true. Blaming the president because the military doesnt have a plan is moronic.
And who is the moron that is injecting the US into Syria's civil war??
We actually had some allies that believed in US leadership in those days.
"Had" is a key word, because Iraq war inflicted enormous damage in US credibility in that regard. The only reason why some countries might hesitate joining US in military today, is because they are embarrassed they allowed Bush to trick them into joining us in Iraq, which they consider a complete fiasco. They believed the stories about WMDs and invested their blood and treasure only to discover they had been fooled.
British view: "By any standards, Britain’s occupation of Iraq was a disaster."
The invasion of Iraq was the downfall of Tony Blair, the last thing the British want to see is yet another invasion. No one wants to commit ground forces to any degree back into Iraq or Syria, we have a good deal of responsibility for what happened but this is not our fight. Time for Jordan, Turkey, Egypt and others to step up to the plate.
Congress should stop dancing around the issue of US ground forces, bombing and support with training, equipment and intelligence is pretty much it we are not sending combat troops back into either country. They need to stop creating false drama and rushing in to conflicts with a bad plan.
Let's all take a trip down memory lane. When W. invaded Iraq, the Coalition of the Willing was thirty countries. Despite that fact, liberals soiled their panties and claimed Wild West George W. Bush was "going it alone" in the Middle East.
While you're taking your little trip down memory lane how about opening your eyes and seeing there was NO REASON to invade/occupy Iraq?
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My guess is we won't hear anything of the sort from our hypocritical and intellectually dishonest friends on the left.
My guess is your only agenda is whining about Obama with no concern for the context in any way.
...and then we look around at the sorry state of affairs in the US domestically, and the world with its hair on fire, and realize just how horrible Obama has been.
As bad as you think Bush was, he did manage to pull together 30+ nations for his coalition in Iraq. None of our allies trust Obama and none of our enemies respect of fear him.
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