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FDR was a total jerk for imprisoning the Japanese Americans during the War.
Yep, a permanent stain on his presidency.
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Originally Posted by Glitch
He crossed that border with the internment of Japanese Americans and Aleutian Islanders. FDR was a fascist when fascism was all the rage throughout Europe.
Teddy was a bit of a fascist, too. It's not a great leap from "Cult of Personality" to Roosevelt's doting on the press to secure frequent and fawning coverage (and punishing negative coverage--like when he ordered the Justice Department to indict Pulitzer's newspaper for a Panama Canal article).
Teddy was a bit of a fascist, too. It's not a great leap from "Cult of Personality" to Roosevelt's doting on the press to secure frequent and fawning coverage (and punishing negative coverage--like when he ordered the Justice Department to indict Pulitzer's newspaper for a Panama Canal article).
The term bully pulpit was coined due to TR. He was a smart, charismatic man who would certainly win a presidential election as a moderate republican in today's political climate.
Teddy was a bit of a fascist, too. It's not a great leap from "Cult of Personality" to Roosevelt's doting on the press to secure frequent and fawning coverage (and punishing negative coverage--like when he ordered the Justice Department to indict Pulitzer's newspaper for a Panama Canal article).
Teddy Roosevelt was the progressive in the family, and as I recall, did not deliberately violate the US Constitution during his two terms. FDR was anything BUT progressive. FDR was a full blown fascist, and deliberately violated the US Constitution almost from the day he took office as President. The two Roosevelts were complete opposites - one was progressive and law abiding, the other was fascist scum that did as he pleased (like Obama).
I would also be willing to wager vast sums of money that this liberal/progressive love fest, that pretends to be a documentary, will completely ignore the internment of the Alaskan Aleutian Islanders from 1942 to 1945.
The US Army use old mines and old condemned fishing canneries as make-shift internment camps, for the Aleutian Islanders "own safety" in Funter Bay, Killisnoo, Ward Lake, and Burnett Inlet. Alaskan Americans were put into those camps in 1942, but only a fraction of them walked out of those camps by 1945. FDR is directly responsible for the slaughter of those Americans, but American history has been completely whitewashed of the incident, so I have no doubt it will be completely ignored by this "feel-good" liberal/progressive love fest that pretends to be a documentary.
Well, one thing to keep in mind: Anti-Japanese sentiment and outright racism became totally OK in mainstream America after Pearl Harbor. Not saying it was a good thing, but it was a different world then. Do a Google search for anti-Japanese comics during that time. Here's a famous one:
So true. You should research what they were saying about us!
I agree. It is odd what gets more coverage versus the quick skim-through.
While we haven't gotten to Japanese internment yet, one example is also Quentin getting killed. That gained a lot of air-time. So dad Warm Springs.
Will give Ken Burns/PBS that, Warm Springs was not deeply covered at school when we did POTUS/FDR. IMHO from what one has learned recently the place and project worked on FDR like a tonic. IMHO had it not been for WS the man may have ended up wallowing in pity as an invalid for the rest of his life. It is fitting as well FDR choose to return to WS (whether he knew it or not) towards the end of his life.
You find throughout history persons born into powerful/wealthy families frequently search out something of their "own". Yes, their parents and or family have vast estates which are at such person's disposal but sooner or later think they are pretty much like the rest of us; that is wanting to be able to point to something and say "I did that" or "this is mine".
The reason we do not live in a dark, social darwinian, rundown, third world, toxic, dickensian society is because of progressives like TR and FDR. But for leadership like TR, corporate monopolies would have remained rampant, sweat shops, wealth inequality, and environmental degradation would have remained the norm, and social mobility nonexistent.
Many Conservatives are always trying to push our way back to those late 19th century days. I believe most of them do not realize or even care to realize, that their ancestors benefited by progressive policies. Those early 20th century immigrants lived in conditions of appalling conditions, and progressive policies improved those conditions, and set the stage for the creation of the middle class.
So that today you have a bunch of middle class people whose ancestors most likely were the unwashed masses and who were distained by the upper classes of the turn of the century elites, can now sit on there arses, in their middle class homes, with spare time to write on Internet forums on how they despise progressive policies. Policies if they were never enacted they would most likely be living in hovels today.
Will give Ken Burns/PBS that, Warm Springs was not deeply covered at school when we did POTUS/FDR. IMHO from what one has learned recently the place and project worked on FDR like a tonic. IMHO had it not been for WS the man may have ended up wallowing in pity as an invalid for the rest of his life. It is fitting as well FDR choose to return to WS (whether he knew it or not) towards the end of his life.
You find throughout history persons born into powerful/wealthy families frequently search out something of their "own". Yes, their parents and or family have vast estates which are at such person's disposal but sooner or later think they are pretty much like the rest of us; that is wanting to be able to point to something and say "I did that" or "this is mine".
Knowing about Warm Springs and what FDR did there and what it meant to a man who essentially lost his ability to walk or stand for long periods of time is essential to understanding the man. It was a place where he did not stand out and could feel useful when helping fellow sufferers from this disease. President Roosevelt could charge up his physical and mental batteries which were drained by what is a crushing situation for a healthy man .
One thing they didn't make much about is the fact that he worked to raise funds for the treatment and hoped for cure of polio.He lent his to something called "The March of Dimes". The Dime being something even children could give to this cause. This was a ground breaking private effort which by th early 1950s helped fund the research by Drs. Sabin and Salk that gave us the polio vaccine and the eradication of polio as a fact in American life. The March of Dimes is still with us for it now funds research into other neuro-muscular diseases like MS using the fight against polio as a model. When Franklin Roosevelt died in 1945 his memory was celebrated by the change in the design of the 10 cent piece which since 1946 has borne the likeness of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He is the only modern President whose likeness is on a widely circulated American coin minted each and every year (The others being Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln.(Kennedy half dollars are only minted for the collectors market)).
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Knowing about Warm Springs and what FDR did there and what it meant to a man who essentially lost his ability to walk or stand for long periods of time is essential to understanding the man. It was a place where he did not stand out and could feel useful when helping fellow sufferers from this disease. President Roosevelt could charge up his physical and mental batteries which were drained by what is a crushing situation for a healthy man .
One thing they didn't make much about is the fact that he worked to raise funds for the treatment and hoped fo cure of polio.He lent his to something called "The March of Dimes". The Dime being something even children could give to this cause. This was a ground breaking private effort which by th early 1950s helped fund the research by Drs. Sabin and Salk that gave us the polio vaccine and the eradication of polio as a fact in American life. The March of Dimes is still with us for it now funds research into other neuro-muscular diseases like MS using the fight against polio as a model. When Franklin Roosevelt died in 1945 his memory was celebrated by the change in the design of the 10 cent piece which since 1946 has borne the likeness of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He is the only modern President whose likeness is on a widely circulated American coin minted each and every year (The others being Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln.(Kennedy half dollars are only minted for the collectors market)).
Actually, the March of Dimes raised funds by having children collect pledges of one dime for every mile walked. The children only donated their time and effort, not their money. The money came from the pledges made by sponsoring the child.
Knowing about Warm Springs and what FDR did there and what it meant to a man who essentially lost his ability to walk or stand for long periods of time is essential to understanding the man. It was a place where he did not stand out and could feel useful when helping fellow sufferers from this disease. President Roosevelt could charge up his physical and mental batteries which were drained by what is a crushing situation for a healthy man .
One thing they didn't make much about is the fact that he worked to raise funds for the treatment and hoped fo cure of polio.He lent his to something called "The March of Dimes". The Dime being something even children could give to this cause. This was a ground breaking private effort which by th early 1950s helped fund the research by Drs. Sabin and Salk that gave us the polio vaccine and the eradication of polio as a fact in American life. The March of Dimes is still with us for it now funds research into other neuro-muscular diseases like MS using the fight against polio as a model. When Franklin Roosevelt died in 1945 his memory was celebrated by the change in the design of the 10 cent piece which since 1946 has borne the likeness of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He is the only modern President whose likeness is on a widely circulated American coin minted each and every year (The others being Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln.(Kennedy half dollars are only minted for the collectors market)).
Another fog was lifted from one's mind about FDR's polio and to what extent it was known by the American public at large during his time.
Had always believe and or learned that FDR's invalid state was almost a state secret with only his close family and other in the inner circle knowing. However it appears from this series Americans at the time and anyone else abroad paying attention knew as well.
PBS has covered polio before with at least one series and as this was not per se what the documentary was about suppose Ken Burns didn't go too deeply there, well outside of how the disease if polio affected FDR. However it is important and well worth remembering at that time mothers/parents lived in dreadful fear of the virus. Persons would move house to other areas for a period when an epidemic hit a block or street. Those supporting the anti-vaccine cause would to well to research the effects of polio epidemics.
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