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Old 09-17-2014, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I just saw this on another board. Would you support it?

Issue transferable, but not refundable tax credits to all African Americans. 20 year expiration date on them. Hell, make them provide a birth certificate. It wouldn't cost the US government a cent. Only people who would pay would do so voluntarily by buying tax credits and in return they get a reduction in their tax burden. Win-win for everyone, right?

On top of that, think of the economic impact it would have if every black person in America got $30k/yr for the next five years (or whatever the number). They would spend most of that money domestically and that would create jobs. Factor in the multiplier and it may even pump more money into the economy than the face value of the credits. If anything, it would come close.

So, in summary:

-give reparations.
-stimulate the economy.
-reduce poverty.
-reduce tax burden on individuals and corporations who buy the credits.
-no cost to the tax payer since it is only tax credits.
No thanks....

It has nothing to do with me having to pay for it, it's a matter of principle.

On the other hand, if you can verify that anyone living today was a slave, I'll gladly make an exception for that individual.

Other than that, it's time we stop living in the past and move on. I would think any self respecting black professional or even blue collar worker would be offended at the very idea of reparations.
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by things and stuff View Post
I just saw this on another board. Would you support it?

Issue transferable, but not refundable tax credits to all African Americans. 20 year expiration date on them. Hell, make them provide a birth certificate. It wouldn't cost the US government a cent. Only people who would pay would do so voluntarily by buying tax credits and in return they get a reduction in their tax burden. Win-win for everyone, right?

On top of that, think of the economic impact it would have if every black person in America got $30k/yr for the next five years (or whatever the number). They would spend most of that money domestically and that would create jobs. Factor in the multiplier and it may even pump more money into the economy than the face value of the credits. If anything, it would come close.

So, in summary:

-give reparations.
-stimulate the economy.
-reduce poverty.
-reduce tax burden on individuals and corporations who buy the credits.
-no cost to the tax payer since it is only tax credits.
define black......please

is Obama who is HALF WHITE with a father who is NON-AMERICAN (true African, no relation to American slaves) black???

a the nearly entire lumbee indian tribe, who mixed with blacks 150 years ago..considered black

is a blackman who just moved here from Jamaica or Haiti considered American black enough to get the reparation??
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Old 09-17-2014, 05:19 AM
 
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I just saw this on another board. Would you support it?

Issue transferable, but not refundable tax credits to all African Americans. 20 year expiration date on them. Hell, make them provide a birth certificate. It wouldn't cost the US government a cent. Only people who would pay would do so voluntarily by buying tax credits and in return they get a reduction in their tax burden. Win-win for everyone, right?

On top of that, think of the economic impact it would have if every black person in America got $30k/yr for the next five years (or whatever the number). They would spend most of that money domestically and that would create jobs. Factor in the multiplier and it may even pump more money into the economy than the face value of the credits. If anything, it would come close.

So, in summary:

-give reparations.
-stimulate the economy.
-reduce poverty.
-reduce tax burden on individuals and corporations who buy the credits.
-no cost to the tax payer since it is only tax credits.
There is not one black person living today that was a slave so they are owed nothing....If you want money get a job.....
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Old 09-17-2014, 05:38 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by things and stuff View Post
I just saw this on another board. Would you support it?

Issue transferable, but not refundable tax credits to all African Americans. 20 year expiration date on them. Hell, make them provide a birth certificate. It wouldn't cost the US government a cent. Only people who would pay would do so voluntarily by buying tax credits and in return they get a reduction in their tax burden. Win-win for everyone, right?

On top of that, think of the economic impact it would have if every black person in America got $30k/yr for the next five years (or whatever the number). They would spend most of that money domestically and that would create jobs. Factor in the multiplier and it may even pump more money into the economy than the face value of the credits. If anything, it would come close.

So, in summary:

-give reparations.
-stimulate the economy.
-reduce poverty.
-reduce tax burden on individuals and corporations who buy the credits.
-no cost to the tax payer since it is only tax credits.


For what?

This is so stupid on so many levels.
No one living today, was a slave.


If one American receives a benefit from the federal government, every person in the USA should get the same identical thing.
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Old 09-17-2014, 06:17 AM
 
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if not for slavery, then the rampant discrimination from slavery till the civil rights act, which many blacks did have to deal with.

obviously would never happen, but if it did i wouldn't be mad about it or care.
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Old 09-17-2014, 06:20 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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if not for slavery, then the rampant discrimination from slavery till the civil rights act, which many blacks did have to deal with.

obviously would never happen, but if it did i wouldn't be mad about it or care.

Find something for a reason to give blacks free money.
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Old 09-17-2014, 06:38 AM
 
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Can those of us of Irish descent get a few free perks tossed our way?

We weren't exactly greeted with open arms when we landed on these shores.

Far from it.
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Old 09-17-2014, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Originally Posted by things and stuff View Post
I just saw this on another board. Would you support it?

Issue transferable, but not refundable tax credits to all African Americans. 20 year expiration date on them. Hell, make them provide a birth certificate. It wouldn't cost the US government a cent. Only people who would pay would do so voluntarily by buying tax credits and in return they get a reduction in their tax burden. Win-win for everyone, right?

On top of that, think of the economic impact it would have if every black person in America got $30k/yr for the next five years (or whatever the number). They would spend most of that money domestically and that would create jobs. Factor in the multiplier and it may even pump more money into the economy than the face value of the credits. If anything, it would come close.

So, in summary:

-give reparations.
-stimulate the economy.
-reduce poverty.
-reduce tax burden on individuals and corporations who buy the credits.
-no cost to the tax payer since it is only tax credits.
Against Reparations no matter how one wants to address it. How are going to know who had slaves as their family line, many people with African roots came here long after slavery was ended here? Who is illegible, every person with one drop of African blood, someone that is 50/50, what is the determining factor? No, it is not only not feasible, it is not necessary, if the USA wanted to do this they should have done so long ago, over 200 years later is not logical.

That said I, do support affirmative action programs that help poor blacks rise up into the ranks of the middle-class and in my opinion that is all we can or should do at this late date.

So that should make people mad on both sides of the issue, too bad get over it, reality is harsh sometimes.
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Old 09-17-2014, 06:42 AM
 
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I just saw this on another board. Would you support it?

Issue transferable, but not refundable tax credits to all African Americans. 20 year expiration date on them. Hell, make them provide a birth certificate. It wouldn't cost the US government a cent. Only people who would pay would do so voluntarily by buying tax credits and in return they get a reduction in their tax burden. Win-win for everyone, right?

On top of that, think of the economic impact it would have if every black person in America got $30k/yr for the next five years (or whatever the number). They would spend most of that money domestically and that would create jobs. Factor in the multiplier and it may even pump more money into the economy than the face value of the credits. If anything, it would come close.

So, in summary:

-give reparations.
-stimulate the economy.
-reduce poverty.
-reduce tax burden on individuals and corporations who buy the credits.
-no cost to the tax payer since it is only tax credits.
I'd support this 100%, provided the person requesting the tax credit:

-can prove they were a slave.

And since nothing is free, even "credits", the money to pay for this credit will come from:

-any taxpayer that has owned a slave.

Deal?
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Old 09-17-2014, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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yes if they are creating jobs. giving free money to people who refuse to work does nothing for the economy.


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Do you support tax credits for corporations and film production companies?

Yes, or no. If yes, why do we owe them anything?
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