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If it wasn't for the prior 10 years at war the analogy would fit, we incrementally got involved in Vietnam but with all the prior baggage this time around not to mention Vietnam we have a history.
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Originally Posted by Memphis1979
The entire middle east is Vietnam 2.0
We are only there to stabilize world oil prices, because our economy depends on it. Of course, if the President said "We have to make sure our petroleum based economy is secure by making the dictators of the region with 25% of the worlds oil reserves stable and in place." That wouldn't fly well. But beheading Americans and saying they threaten our country does play well.
I understand the need to try and stabilize the middle east. I have repeatedly and often asked that many who support our oil dependency to back energy independence at home. This will include oil, for sure, but we need to lower the percentage of our nations economy that is based on that petroleum. We need to use coal, gas, and yes, solar, wind, and nuclear, and any other damned energy supply we can conjure up within the borders of these United States.
That way the citizens of the middle eastern countries can run around cutting each others heads off, and we won't suffer for it at home. Fuel prices, food prices, clothing prices, almost everything you buy is based on the price of oil in the world. The more we take that power away from the middle east and those nuts over there, the better.
I would give anything to hear a politician come out and just tell the truth on EVERYTHING..I know the other pols would despise him,but ill bet he would become an American folk hero.
"Well,here's the deal boys and girls...big money corporations from America don't want to pay a living wage nor do they want to pay for their own security...so...we are going to send your kids and your tax dollars to Buttholeville,Redneckistan and protect those corps investments which by the way we receive no tax money from...sure some of your kids will be killed and yes trillions dollars will be spent and wasted by rat contractors,but that business baby..kept us going for a hundred years or more so just sit back and take your anal probing with a smile"...I would like THAT guy better than the lying,smarmy,know nothing idiots we have running the show right now.
I would give anything to hear a politician come out and just tell the truth on EVERYTHING..I know the other pols would despise him,but ill bet he would become an American folk hero.
"Well,here's the deal boys and girls...big money corporations from America don't want to pay a living wage nor do they want to pay for their own security...so...we are going to send your kids and your tax dollars to Buttholeville,Redneckistan and protect those corps investments which by the way we receive no tax money from...sure some of your kids will be killed and yes trillions dollars will be spent and wasted by rat contractors,but that business baby..kept us going for a hundred years or more so just sit back and take your anal probing with a smile"...I would like THAT guy better than the lying,smarmy,know nothing idiots we have running the show right now.
It could also be said, "if we don't stop this threat, then you will have to pay 5 dollars a gallon for milk, instead of 4 dollars a gallon"
And people would still be willing to sacrifice other peoples children, simply for that aspect. All in the name of "patriotism"
If it wasn't for the prior 10 years at war the analogy would fit, we incrementally got involved in Vietnam but with all the prior baggage this time around not to mention Vietnam we have a history.
Memphis makes a good point though that the Vietnamization of our involvement in the Middle East goes way, way back. He says '48...I say '53 when we overthrew Mossadegh in Iran. The implications of that action has thrown the Middle East in tumult that we could've never imagined when we did it. The implications over these decades is astounding.
Surprised the media guys didn't raise the red flag when they heard the term 'Advisor'.
When I first heard obama use that term, my head spun. does not anyone inn the media or journalism realize that was the green flag to the troop buid up in VN?
Each week more advisors would be sent to make up for the advisors killed. Proves history is a lost cause when Obama felt no one would catch on when they heard 'advisors' vs troops were being sent? Guess not.
So now we have boots in the air vs boots on the ground and there is a difference? especially to the 'boots'?
What a circle jerk Obama is running.
Then to hear Kerry today was to realize what a waste of space that blowhard is. He spews random nonsense to eat up time and never answers any questions. He is as unqualified as Obama for the position he is in. Kerry is a sad caricture of a cartoonish career politician acting in a human tragedy stage play.
It was Kerry a while back that said the biggest threat to our safety was human caused global warming.
Did ISIS replace Kerry's biggest fear and cause of our mass destruction, human caused global warming???
Hope someone asks him that question.....but they'd have to wait an hour while for JK to circle around in the bushes before giving no answer.
As long as they fulfill what the contract calls for, who cares?
The military CAN'T do everything so they contract out. Why do you have a problem with that?
We care when they're furtively controlling people that make big decisions on whether or not to go to war.
This "defense contractor" moniker is politically correct anyway. There was a time when they were called War Profiteers...And that name is quite appropriate.
And this is coming from a defense contractor.
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Does this sound like Viet Nam 2.0?
