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Old 09-18-2014, 05:01 AM
 
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I didn't say he shouldn't have gone. He can do whatever he wants.

The problem is charity work like that has become a way to hold these chronically poor nations back. They are given just enough to survive but not enough to develop.

I believe strongly that charity and foreign aid are the biggest hindrance to the economic development of chronically poor countries. You see me as selfish. I see you as selfish for causing these nations to remain poor and unable to take care of themselves forever. I see myself as being realistic.

Again, billions and billions of dollars and untold man hours have poured into these countries for decades. Almost no change. These charity work and foreign aid have effectively destroyed these countries' ability to develop their own healthcare systems and create their own physicians.

It's time we try a new approach to help these countries.

Giving them fish just makes you feel good but it yields little result. We should be aiming to teach them how to fish instead.
Do a search and see how US financial aid is to be distributed to help these countries. The US just throws money at the head/government of these countries and these countries show no accountability on their part to show that the money is actually going where intended. Financial aid is just the US lining the pockets of countries that are our frenemies.

No different how our "transparent" federal government can't account for $619 billion in taxpayer dollars that has been "lost".

 
Old 09-18-2014, 05:19 AM
 
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Do a search and see how US financial aid is to be distributed to help these countries. The US just throws money at the head/government of these countries and these countries show no accountability on their part to show that the money is actually going where intended. Financial aid is just the US lining the pockets of countries that are our frenemies.

No different how our "transparent" federal government can't account for $619 billion in taxpayer dollars that has been "lost".
Thank you for supporting what I said. Charity and foreign aid do nothing but hold back these countries.

It's time we stop these "feel good" aids and focus on another way to help.
 
Old 09-18-2014, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Do a search and see how US financial aid is to be distributed to help these countries. The US just throws money at the head/government of these countries and these countries show no accountability on their part to show that the money is actually going where intended. Financial aid is just the US lining the pockets of countries that are our frenemies.

No different how our "transparent" federal government can't account for $619 billion in taxpayer dollars that has been "lost".
Instead of throwing money, I would like to see them pay people to go and help, similar to what Rand does. It would be cheaper and we would actually know where the money is spent and visibly see results.
 
Old 09-18-2014, 05:30 AM
 
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Instead of throwing money, I would like to see them pay people to go and help, similar to what Rand does. It would be cheaper and we would actually know where the money is spent and visibly see results.
Like I said, for the most part, the financial aid is nothing more than a payoff to our frenemies. They take the money, build a hut for a school in some village only the villagers can find, and in the eyes of the US the money is being used as intended. We've been giving money to certain countries for decades and nothing, I mean nothing, changed.
 
Old 09-18-2014, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
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No. I think he should work on getting those nations to create their own doctors and health care systems to deal with their own maimed. We have enough problems here as it is. He doesn't need to leave the country to find people who need help.

Again, billons of dollars and untold man hours have been poured into helping these chronically poor nations for decades. Almost nothing has changed. If it hasn't worked in the past, what makes you think it will work now?
He has done free surgeries in Kentucky for quite some time
 
Old 09-18-2014, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by rosie_hair View Post
I didn't say he shouldn't have gone. He can do whatever he wants.

The problem is charity work like that has become a way to hold these chronically poor nations back. They are given just enough to survive but not enough to develop.

I believe strongly that charity and foreign aid are the biggest hindrance to the economic development of chronically poor countries. You see me as selfish. I see you as selfish for causing these nations to remain poor and unable to take care of themselves forever. I see myself as being realistic.

Again, billions and billions of dollars and untold man hours have poured into these countries for decades. Almost no change. These charity work and foreign aid have effectively destroyed these countries' ability to develop their own healthcare systems and create their own physicians.

It's time we try a new approach to help these countries.

Giving them fish just makes you feel good but it yields little result. We should be aiming to teach them how to fish instead.
Yes lets NOT have operations that allow people to see and therefore take better care of themselves.
 
Old 09-18-2014, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Who's disappointed? Personally, I'm indifferent about charity work. I do think that it is a pointless endeavor. Give a man a fish and you fed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you fed him for life.

All these chronically poor nations need to learn to help themselves. Billions have been poured into charity and foreign aid and little has changed.
as trillions have been spent on social programs to help the poor since the great society of lbj and nothing has changed in fact it has become wose
 
Old 09-18-2014, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Give a man a fish and you fed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you fed him for life.

All these chronically poor nations need to learn to help themselves. Billions have been poured into charity and foreign aid and little has changed.
You are talking about education. We need to educate our own people first, and then we might be in a better position to help others.
 
Old 09-18-2014, 07:00 AM
 
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Who's disappointed? Personally, I'm indifferent about charity work. I do think that it is a pointless endeavor. Give a man a fish and you fed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you fed him for life.

All these chronically poor nations need to learn to help themselves. Billions have been poured into charity and foreign aid and little has changed.
That's just silly. Our country has resources, and doctors willing to go to other countries to help out children with harelips or other common issues. What's wrong with that? If they don't do it, no one in their own country is going to decide to do it. If they had the means and resources, people would already be doing it there.

Rand Paul not only does this in Guatemala, but he's done no-cost or low-cost eye surgeries for people in this country as well. Think of all the uninsured or newly insured but unable to pay their outrageous deductibles, who will put off cataract surgery because they simply cannot afford it. If someone has the skills and resources to help these people, I have no problem with that.
 
Old 09-18-2014, 07:05 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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It is a good gesture, money where his mouth is. We see who really cares about the poor, not the Democrats grilling precooked steaks.
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