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Old 09-19-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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1. It's not illegal.

2. The ruling only applies to students of a high school in California.
It's illegal in that California school only? So no other school can use this ruling to impose the same ban on flag shirts? Really?

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Old 09-19-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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No flags should be allowed to be worn on apparel at any public school.

American Flags should be the only ones allowed at any American Public School to be flown in any place of honor.
We still have freedom of speech you know.
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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I'm no lawyer, but I think the decision would be overturned if appealed. I cannot see any way that this is not unconstitutional.

I can understand some basis for a school mandating certain dress codes or appropriate attire, but not for this reason. If it's OK to celebrate Cinco De Mayo on school grounds, then it's OK to celebrate America on school grounds.

If doing so would spark violence, then Mexican students need to learn some tolerance in their new country.
The students celebrating Cinco De Mayo were American students.

School Administrators have the right to set dress codes on school grounds.
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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Well, first of all the flag should never be worn as apparel, see U.S Code Title 4, Chapter 1, Section 8, Paragraph D.

Flag Code
I think this explains it: "... place or cause to be placed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, drawing, or any advertisement of any nature upon any flag..."

If I'm interpreting this correctly, the code bans people from slapping their logo on the US flag, or slapping the US flag on their logo.
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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We still have freedom of speech you know.
Really?

You can have your speech and dress codes as well.

Or do you have problems walking and chewing gum at the same time
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The ruling states that it is not the business of courts to interfere with schools attempting to impose reasonable dress codes. All the rest of the reaction here is political posturing and rancor.
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:43 AM
 
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A single violation of our rights is too much.

It's a shame how far we have slid and how much we have given up isn't it? Many have no clue, and are so quick to defend the opposite side...

We should insist that if the immigrant who comes here does in good faith become an

American and assimilates himself to us he shall be treated on an exact equality with every one else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed or birth-place or origin.

But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American and nothing but an American. If he tries to keep segregated with men of his own origin and separated from the rest of America, then he isn't doing his part as an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. . . We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, of American nationality, and not as dwellers in a polyglot boarding-house; and we have room for but one soul loyalty, and that is loyalty to the American people.

Theodore Roosevelt, 1907
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Gee, I love the "well it's only one high school" excuses.
One day it will affect you directly but by then it will be too late.
Creep is how it happens..small, seemingly insignificant creep.
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Sorry folks but we are talking about a school here and if you did not know schools can pass all sorts of rules that violate an adults Civil and Constitutional rights but with children we decided somewhere along the line that they do not have the same sorts of rights as adults, so now you are stuck with it.
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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I think this explains it: "... place or cause to be placed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, drawing, or any advertisement of any nature upon any flag..."

If I'm interpreting this correctly, the code bans people from slapping their logo on the US flag, or slapping the US flag on their logo.

... or taking a flag and wrapping it around yourself like a toga.
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