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Old 09-23-2014, 07:47 PM
 
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That's exactly why nobody takes libertarians seriously: they advocate abolishment of current institutions while not providing any alternatives...
Sure, let's jump off the cliff and hope we'll figure out how to land on the way down... LOL



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Haven't really thought about what is politically feasible because I am not much on pondering the best way to interfere in the life of my fellow man. I could personally care less what you and the other petty tyrants conjure up, and I'll handle my health care business on my own, hopefully free from any of your interference, tyvm.
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:50 PM
 
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No more public schools, no more army, no more police, no more libraries and no more FAA. Wow. That would be fun.
We ARE talking about the federal government, here, you know. And, I hate to say it, but you know what you said is a lie. The federal government is authorized by the Constitution to do about 5% of what it does. That would be military, courts, interstate commerce regulation, a postal service, a currency, and not much else.
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:52 PM
 
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As a physician I have been caring for Medicare patients for nearly 40 years now. And the number of serious complaints from patients about the program have remained very very low. Because it is TOO good a deal for them. It covers TOO much, TOO easily and at TOO low a cost for them. I soon will partake at this trough in about 1 and a 1/2 years. Hot diggity dogs!
You know that is absolutley untrue.

Why do liberals resort to arguments easily proven wrong, the moment their nanny state teat is threatened to be removed?
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:53 PM
 
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What is your politically feasible alternative to a single-payer system? i.e. an alternative that has a chance of becoming law.
It's called the free market.

Single payer is not feasible, in real life. You might get politicians to vote for it, but like all others, is simply impossible to sustain. Like Medicare, it will collapse totally. Why you'd want to do that to the public, I have no idea.
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:55 PM
 
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You know that is absolutley untrue.

Why do liberals resort to arguments easily proven wrong, the moment their nanny state teat is threatened to be removed?
You know the history of all my Medicare patients?

Medicare is being removed?

Where do you come up with this?
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:55 PM
 
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Lol exactly.

He basically asked you "I know you don't want to rob any of these 3 people but if you had to which one would you rob?"

The statist mindset is so entrenched with folks I don't believe it can be broken via baby steps. It's either you get it or don't.
Basically, yes.

Their arguments always revolve around "just try winning your freedom, we can always buy the votes of the ignorant with your money..."
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:03 PM
 
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Why? I thought libertarians oppose all government and not just the federal one. Oh, I got it. Youre not really libertarian you just hate the federal government and hide that hate under libertarian cover. Got ya. Good luck lol



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We ARE talking about the federal government, here, you know. And, I hate to say it, but you know what you said is a lie. The federal government is authorized by the Constitution to do about 5% of what it does. That would be military, courts, interstate commerce regulation, a postal service, a currency, and not much else.
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:07 PM
 
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That's exactly why nobody takes libertarians seriously: they advocate abolishment of current institutions while not providing any alternatives...
Sure, let's jump off the cliff and hope we'll figure out how to land on the way down... LOL
Let me get this straight. Your argument is that nobody takes libertarians seriously, because they do not continuously plot strategy to control other people against their will?

You're truly nefarious and by logical deduction, what you think is good... is absolutely repulsive.
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:11 PM
 
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Why? I thought libertarians oppose all government and not just the federal one. Oh, I got it. Youre not really libertarian you just hate the federal government and hide that hate under libertarian cover. Got ya. Good luck lol
Have you ever considered the possibility that people say what they mean?

Or does your existence consist of studiously ignoring reality and making up your fantasy, when you then accuse everyone else of being?

Oh, and I have NEVER said I was a libertarian. Either small case OR capital "l" version. But you knew that, so I must assume you hoped to accomplish some deception.

Either way, lies are not a base for a solid morality OR society.
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:20 PM
 
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That's exactly why nobody takes libertarians seriously: they advocate abolishment of current institutions while not providing any alternatives...
Sure, let's jump off the cliff and hope we'll figure out how to land on the way down... LOL
Why do I need an alternative for you? Am I your daddy?

I know what I would do if I could function without threat of imprisonment/death. What you would do is up to you.
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