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Old 09-29-2014, 06:11 PM
 
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You sound like you would love the govt of North Korea?

But of course, because I like Canada and Italy I must like North Korea. next

 
Old 09-29-2014, 06:13 PM
 
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You don't understand. You seem to have Libertarians confused with socialists or communists. If you go to lp dot org you can see what Libertarians are about. They don't mention collectivist societies. Libertarians don't dictate anything. They are not against the internet & they don't require people to own computers. They don't require people go to library to use computers, either.

Which rights do you think Libertarians would take from you? Why don't you go to their website & see if they are plotting against you? Black market food? Please discuss politics, not fantasies. Thanks!



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Good, good. Be a libertarian in a collectivist society. It's so much easier than being a libertarian when there is no society of which developments (internet, exchanges, money) you can take advantage of.
You're just a little hypocrite: "I hate this immoral society but I will gladly use its legal tender and the internet as they are very convenient. Look, mommy, I am a big anarchist/libertarian, cause I buy my food on black market" You're a real rebel, bud. LOL
 
Old 09-29-2014, 06:15 PM
 
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You don't understand. You seem to have Libertarians confused with socialists or communists. If you go to lp dot org you can see what Libertarians are about. They don't mention collectivist societies. Libertarians don't dictate anything. They are not against the internet & they don't require people to own computers. They don't require people go to library to use computers, either.

Which rights do you think Libertarians would take from you? Why don't you go to their website & see if they are plotting against you? Black market food? Please discuss politics, not fantasies. Thanks!
The black market food was brought up by your fellow anarchists.
 
Old 09-29-2014, 06:19 PM
 
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Bud, I really can't go over this again... Just to recap the previous 50 pages: the reason there are no successful societies based on libertarian principles is that libertarianism is not conducive to economic and civilizational development.






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Originally Posted by GJJG2012 View Post
You don't understand. You seem to have Libertarians confused with socialists or communists. If you go to lp dot org you can see what Libertarians are about. They don't mention collectivist societies. Libertarians don't dictate anything. They are not against the internet & they don't require people to own computers. They don't require people go to library to use computers, either.

Which rights do you think Libertarians would take from you? Why don't you go to their website & see if they are plotting against you? Black market food? Please discuss politics, not fantasies. Thanks!
 
Old 09-29-2014, 06:19 PM
 
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Do you like Canada &/or Italy better than US? If so, why live in US (if you do?). Thanks for clarifying you think the govt of N Korea does not allow enough rights. Best wishes, but please check lp.org to see if reality is anything like your fantasy. They care about the 100% equally. That includes you!



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But of course, because I like Canada and Italy I must like North Korea. next
 
Old 09-29-2014, 06:21 PM
 
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The black market food was brought up by your fellow anarchists.
Technically purchasing food without letting the Evil Aggressor take a cut is something that occurs in the grey market not the black market. The grey market is much larger than the black market as the black market is specifically for goods/services that are illegal. Since food is otherwise legal, dealing with it in the true free market is a grey market activity.

And dealing in the grey/black markets has absolutely nothing to do with "anarchy". It is simply the only way to interact in a free market in the shadow of the Aggressor.

Personally, any form of counter-economics is a beautiful thing for anyone who wants more freedom and profit. And you get the added beauty of not funding the Aggressor's sinister thugs.

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Old 09-29-2014, 06:29 PM
 
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"Look, mommy, I am buying food on black market, I am a big libertarian now, and tomorrow I'll jump on the city bus without a ticket!" You're a real rebel, pal. Lol





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Technically purchasing food without letting the Evil Aggressor take a cut is something that occurs in the grey market not the black market. The grey market is much larger than the black market as the black market is specifically for goods/services that are illegal. Since food is otherwise legal, dealing with it in the true free market is a grey market activity.

And dealing in the grey/black markets has absolutely nothing to do with "anarchy". It is simply the only way to interact in a free market in the shadow of the Aggressor.
 
Old 09-29-2014, 06:34 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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"Look, mommy, I am buying food on black market, I am a big libertarian now, and tomorrow I'll jump on the city bus without a ticket!" You're a real rebel, pal. Lol
Rebel? No, I am just trying to expand my freedom and limiting my funding of actions of aggression by the State.
 
Old 09-29-2014, 06:41 PM
 
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Rebel? No, I am just trying to expand my freedom and limiting my funding of actions of aggression by the State.

"Your freedom"? You're just a hypocrite who takes advantage of civilizational achievements of this society while considering it an aggressor. lol
 
Old 09-29-2014, 06:43 PM
 
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The most recent Libertarian candidate for President (Gary Johnson) started work as a door to door handyman. Them started his construction company with himself as only employee. When he sold the company for about $10 million, it had over 1,000 employees. He did not have to lie or hurt anyone for that money. He just lived up to the slogan the best service for the lowest price. He promised the same thing as president. As popular 2 term gov of NM, he inherited a deficit, cut taxes & left state a billion dollar surplus. Isn't that being conducive to economic development?

He said legalize cannabis when he was popular 2 term gov of NM. Now it's been 2 years if that being the #1 request coming in to whitehouse.gov/ Do you prefer a govt that tunes out the public? That you would have no say in what happens? If you want more people to act civilized, might we need a civilized govt first, leading by example? Cannabis legalization 96% on internet want it, why does govt ignore this?

People who vote for people that want to harm them, their spouse, kids, or best friends, how intelligent is that vote? Corporations that run our govt don't care about who is in good health or bad, alive or dead. If you don't bribe govt, why vote for someone who doesn't care about you? Best wishes.





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Bud, I really can't go over this again... Just to recap the previous 50 pages: the reason there are no successful societies based on libertarian principles is that libertarianism is not conducive to economic and civilizational development.
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