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Old 09-23-2014, 08:33 AM
 
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Notably not on Friday’s panel was Richard Posner, the Seventh Circuit judge who upheld a similar voter-ID law in Indiana in 2007. The Supreme Court subsequently affirmed that decision, but both Judge Posner and Justice John Paul Stevens, who wrote the opinion for the court, have since said they were wrong, and had misunderstood the true nature of voter-ID laws.

In an interview last year, Judge Posner said he believed that voter-ID laws are “now widely regarded as a means of voter suppression rather than of fraud prevention.”
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/...ype=blogs&_r=0

So the judge in question was "rebuked" for agreeing with the opinions of the justices he was supposedly ignoring. Another win for conservatism.
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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They will support a ID for buying cigs and alcohol, to cash a check, to enter a club, etc but not for voting and they do not see the stupidity
I was carded for a video game at Best Buy once when I was 30.
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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Poof that a super-majority support it?
There is numerous polls on this and all are in the 70 to 80% approval.
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Old 09-23-2014, 09:34 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Perhaps the Department of Injustice should get involved.
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Adelman made the startling claim in his opinion that the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in 2008 upholding Indiana’s voter-ID law as constitutional was “not binding precedent,” so Adelman could essentially ignore it.
Are you for real? That judge needs to be impeached and removed.

Also, does anyone not see the irony here?

Her position is an extremist "States' Rights" position.

Dissolving...


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Old 09-23-2014, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Link: For Voter ID Opponents, This Was a Stunning Blow

Score one for common sense, Wisconsin, and Voter ID. Losers: Eric Holder, activist liberal judges, voter fraud.

Voter ID will be enforced in Wisconsin in the 2014 election.
For all the expense and difficulty in setting up voter IDs only weeks before the election, do we have any statistics regarding voter ID fraud? How prevalent is it and what has its impact been? I assume the movement for voter ID is based on due diligence of the facts.
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:21 AM
 
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For all the expense and difficulty in setting up voter IDs only weeks before the election, do we have any statistics regarding voter ID fraud? How prevalent is it and what has its impact been? I assume the movement for voter ID is based on due diligence of the facts.
Statistics on voter fraud are hard to come by because Democrats typically do not prosecute voter fraud in the large jurisdictions where it occurs, like the City of Milwaukee.

If the local watering hole can implement Voter ID to serve alcohol, I'm sure the efficient, omnipotent and benevolent government entities that run elections can manage as well. Or are you saying government can only run stuff like nationalized health care and the welfare state?
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Statistics on voter fraud are hard to come by because Democrats typically do not prosecute voter fraud in the large jurisdictions where it occurs, like the City of Milwaukee.

If the local watering hole can implement Voter ID to serve alcohol, I'm sure the efficient, omnipotent and benevolent government entities that run elections can manage as well. Or are you saying government can only run stuff like nationalized health care and the welfare state?

Cannot Republicans prosecute voter fraud? So this is a nonexistent issue.

How many people would stand in a voting line twice or more on a single day to place one more lousy vote. This is nothing more than another desperate attempt by Walker to disenfranchise enough voters so that he might have a chance at winning.

Voter ID laws disenfranchise millions of voters to prevent a problem that does not exist. Isn't that like burning down the house to kill the ants? Sad day for democracy.

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Old 09-23-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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Cannot Republicans prosecute voter fraud? So this is a nonexistent issue.

How many people would stand in a voting line twice or more on a single day to place one more lousy vote. This is nothing more than another desperate attempt by Walker to disenfranchise enough voters so that he might have a chance at winning.

Voter ID laws disenfranchise millions of voters to prevent a problem that does not exist. Isn't that like burning down the house to kill the ants? Sad day for democracy.
No, Republicans can't prosecute voter fraud unless they run the District Attorney's office. And they don't in most large cities, which are run by liberals.

What's worse in your mind? Republicans "disenfranchising" people by requiring an ID to vote or Democrats keeping people from getting health insurance unless they show valid voter ID?
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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No, Republicans can't prosecute voter fraud unless they run the District Attorney's office. And they don't in most large cities, which are run by liberals.

What's worse in your mind? Republicans "disenfranchising" people by requiring an ID to vote or Democrats keeping people from getting health insurance unless they show valid voter ID?
The only thing that keeps our country a democracy is voting. Your statistics about most DAs in large cities are liberals is another made up whopper! Lets base our country on truth, intelligence, and democracy. Were voter IDs required by our founding fathers?
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