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Old 10-01-2014, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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It's been consistent throughout this entire thread.
Boys will be boys, you know.
Nope.... Those are your words, not mine. Men who sleep around should be looked down upon just as much as women. The only difference is that men are more genetically pre-disposed to it.
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Old 10-01-2014, 01:44 PM
 
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Yes, that was me. My son told me he was sexually active at 16, so naturally, I equipped him with the tools, knowledge and protection he needed. From 16 to 19, he got condoms in his Christmas "stalking", along with socks, deodorant and aftershave.
Had I had a daughter who was sexually active at 16, I would have take her to an OB-GYN and got her on the pill.
What else was I supposed to do? Lock him in the basement? Tell him to just say no to those evil, loose girls?
Tell him to eat Graham Crackers to dull his sexual appetites? Put saltpeter in his food?
I know I did the right thing.
No, you don't hand out protection for them for doing something wrong. It is encouraging them to continue to do it. You let them pay the consequences and accept responsibility for their actions. There are other ways for them to get birth control if they are so determined other than through their parents. That is what is most objectionable to me is for the parents to provide it to them. It sends the wrong message.
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Old 10-01-2014, 01:49 PM
 
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Nope.... Those are your words, not mine. Men who sleep around should be looked down upon just as much as women. The only difference is that men are more genetically pre-disposed to it.

utter BS
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Old 10-01-2014, 01:51 PM
 
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Nope.... Those are your words, not mine. Men who sleep around should be looked down upon just as much as women. The only difference is that men are more genetically pre-disposed to it.
You don't need to do a disclaimer. What your're doing is hypocritical & you know it. You judge women, predictable & sexist.
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Old 10-01-2014, 01:53 PM
 
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Just because something is fun is not always the sole factor that should be considered when determining whether to do it or not. I bet standing on the hood of a car going down the freeway would be "fun"...until it wasn't.
Yeah, it is. I'm an unmarried adult, I can have all the sex I want & will because I like it & it's fun. Thankfully, I'm not a bore in bed.
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Old 10-01-2014, 01:57 PM
 
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No, you don't hand out protection for them for doing something wrong. It is encouraging them to continue to do it. You let them pay the consequences and accept responsibility for their actions. There are other ways for them to get birth control if they are so determined other than through their parents. That is what is most objectionable to me is for the parents to provide it to them. It sends the wrong message.

what consequences are there to pay if the kids don't get pregnant or get a sexually transmitted disease? there are none. they got away clean so to say. the kid is going to make their own choice no matter if he has BC or not, no matter what his parents say or not. making it hard for a kid to get birth control only makes it more inaccessible when the time comes that he needs BC they end up having unprotected sex anyway.

you would rather a kid that has sex have a baby as a result of sex to show them responsibility? or is it better to teach them safe sex as a responsible way? which makes more sense? kids having kids, being on the welfare dime, more abortions? oe education and BC ?
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Old 10-01-2014, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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No, you don't hand out protection for them for doing something wrong. It is encouraging them to continue to do it. You let them pay the consequences and accept responsibility for their actions. There are other ways for them to get birth control if they are so determined other than through their parents. That is what is most objectionable to me is for the parents to provide it to them. It sends the wrong message.
I don't think it's wrong. It's normal and natural. But then, I'm not a Puritan.
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Old 10-01-2014, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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what consequences are there to pay if the kids don't get pregnant or get a sexually transmitted disease? there are none. they got away clean so to say. the kid is going to make their own choice no matter if he has BC or not, no matter what his parents say or not. making it hard for a kid to get birth control only makes it more inaccessible when the time comes that he needs BC they end up having unprotected sex anyway.

you would rather a kid that has sex have a baby as a result of sex to show them responsibility? or is it better to teach them safe sex as a responsible way? which makes more sense? kids having kids, being on the welfare dime, more abortions? oe education and BC ?
Why yes! Make them take responsibility. Don't provide the tools. Force them to carry the pregnancy to term, and have them marry at gunpoint.
They'll have a lifetime of bliss.
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Old 10-01-2014, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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No, you don't hand out protection for them for doing something wrong. It is encouraging them to continue to do it. You let them pay the consequences and accept responsibility for their actions. There are other ways for them to get birth control if they are so determined other than through their parents. That is what is most objectionable to me is for the parents to provide it to them. It sends the wrong message.
Oldglory,

This is a very hard subject to navigate when it comes to kids. On one hand, we don't want them making irresponsible decisions, and we want to steer them in the right direction. On the other hand, we want them to be open about their lives with us and we want them to feel safe talking with us about things like sex. So, I do agree that the best way to keep them from making the wrong decision is to encourage them to make the right one in the first place. That would be my answer to weltschmerz's question "what was I supposed to do"..... However, I'm not so sure that saying 'telling me you're having sex is wrong and will lead to consequences" is the right message to send either. Then they might be having sex and you have no clue because they don't feel safe telling you about it.

It's a very fine line to tread no matter how you go about it, that's a given.
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Old 10-01-2014, 02:05 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Yeah, it is. I'm an unmarried adult, I can have all the sex I want & will because I like it & it's fun. Thankfully, I'm not a bore in bed.

You're a grown up, and therefore, it is your choice as to how you live your life, so long as you don't cause harm to others in the process. I will say this though, because I was young once, and you sound like you're young. The occasional booty call is fun from time to time, but it is much better when you're in a meaningful relationship. And I can say with confidence thank GOD I'm in a stable marriage! Because at some point it gets old having half-a**ed relationships based on sex! Not to mention all of the drama and the games that go with it, along with the fact that sometimes emotions come in to play where one party might have more feeling than the other one, and cause all sorts of drama! Not judging you, just offering my perspective. Did I have fun back in my day being a free bird? Oh hell yeah! But, I wouldn't trade what I have now with a stable relationship! Not for anything in the world!
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