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Old 10-05-2014, 06:54 PM
 
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Well, since Christians are the vast majority in this country, Christians are the ones who have made this country, this society, what it is today.

Christians are the ones who make the movies, the TV shows, the music, the advertisements, the video games, the fashions, the porn.....and Christians are the ones who consume it.....all of it.

How ironic.
WTH are you talking about? I never read anything so ridiculous. True Christians haven't done any of the above in fact they oppose it.
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Old 10-05-2014, 07:03 PM
 
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WTH are you talking about? I never read anything so ridiculous. True Christians haven't done any of the above in fact they oppose it.
So.....most people who consider themselves Christians, aren't really Christians?

How interesting.....

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Old 10-05-2014, 07:17 PM
 
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IMO, abortion shouldn't be an option. Is that clear enough for you? Kids on birth control for the purpose of having kiddie sex....read that slowly and what picture comes to mind if you have a young son or daughter? The barn door can be closed if parents change their attitudes towards teenaged sex and society also.

No, I have never been pregnant as I am a male but if I were a teenaged girl or boy I wouldn't have sex before 18 and without some kind of emotional feelings towards my partner and willing to take responsibility for a life I might help create. If pregnancy were the result abortion would not be an option. I would either keep the baby or adopt it out.

No, I do not support welfare for young mothers or none of the other taxpayer paid crap you mentioned. Parents are responsible for their teenaged kids behavior let them pay for them and going back to giving them birth control instead is just chasing your tail again.

so it is your preference that teenagers who get carried away one night, get pregnant should just have the child, either adopt it out or try to raise it themselves without any aid what so ever. how are poor parents supposed to help? besides you can tell a kid not to do something over and over again doesn't mean they will follow instructions.
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:13 PM
 
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Wow, a country where nobody bats an eye at the thought of teenagers having sex? Well, the U.S. is getting much like that unfortunately.
Yes, and with teenage pregnancy rates way, way lower than the US one.

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I repeat, responsible behavior is not having casual teenage sex in the first place.
Yesyesyes, you've said that. It's a very nice idea. Now join us in the real world?

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Handing them birth control in a sense condones that behavior. It's a shame that you think that teens can't be taught that abstinence is being responsible. It didn't use to be this way and society is to blame for it.
Teenage pregnancy rates are dropping, for chrissake.

You can either keep clinging to what you feel very strongly should work, or you can look at what actually works. In the meantime, literally the least you can do is get out of the way of those trying to provide solutions instead of moral outrage.
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:14 PM
 
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So.....most people who consider themselves Christians, aren't really Christians?

How interesting.....
If they are doing or condoning the things that you mentioned then yes they are hypocrites. Nothing interesting about it. Many people go to church but don't practice Christianity in their personal lives. This is news to you?
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:17 PM
 
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so it is your preference that teenagers who get carried away one night, get pregnant should just have the child, either adopt it out or try to raise it themselves without any aid what so ever.
That's the conservative viewpoint. What fun is it to be all moral if there are no wicked, sinful people to feel superior to? As with gay marriage, it's a perfect deal for the righteous: Tell those other people to stop their sinning and get rewarded in heaven. Because changing your own behavior is all hard and stuff.
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:17 PM
 
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so it is your preference that teenagers who get carried away one night, get pregnant should just have the child, either adopt it out or try to raise it themselves without any aid what so ever. how are poor parents supposed to help? besides you can tell a kid not to do something over and over again doesn't mean they will follow instructions.
Teaching abstinence is my preference to condoning teenaged sex by making it easier for them to do it by handing them birth control. Adults know right from wrong also but don't always do what is right either. Should they get a pass on their behavior or pay the consequences? Not my problem if both the parents and the kid are poor. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and take care of your own problems.
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:19 PM
 
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If they are doing or condoning the things that you mentioned then no they are hypocrites. Nothing interesting about it. Many people go to church but don't practice Christianity in their personal lives. This is news to you?
Many people go to church and still walk out wishing to focus on all those motes they manage to spot in the eyes of others, no matter what the carpenter's son said on that. No, this is not news at all.
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:20 PM
 
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Yes, and with teenage pregnancy rates way, way lower than the US one.

Yesyesyes, you've said that. It's a very nice idea. Now join us in the real world?

Teenage pregnancy rates are dropping, for chrissake.

You can either keep clinging to what you feel very strongly should work, or you can look at what actually works. In the meantime, literally the least you can do is get out of the way of those trying to provide solutions instead of moral outrage.
I wasn't aware I was getting in someone's way by expressing my opinion. Oh the horror.
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:36 PM
 
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Teaching abstinence is my preference to condoning teenaged sex by making it easier for them to do it by handing them birth control. Adults know right from wrong also but don't always do what is right either. Should they get a pass on their behavior or pay the consequences? Not my problem if both the parents and the kid are poor. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and take care of your own problems.

yes lets have that week old newborn pull up their diapers and help their 15 year old poor mother to feed and care for themselves. such compassion and understanding glory.
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