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You do not weaponize something for which there is no effective treatment. There is too much chance your own people will catch it. Your conspiracy theory fails. There is no evidence the current outbreak is anything other than natral. It is worse because of the geographic location, in a denser, more mobile population. Ignorance and superstition are helping to fuel it.
And surprise, surprise... even Monsanto plays into the game.
You got your info from Rense.com? A place that thinks chemtrails and black helicopters are real. The one place for of conspiracy that makes David Icke's shape shifting lizard people look rational in comparison! I loved their piece republished from Alex Jones about cyborg elves taking over the US in 2009.
Hmm... Ebola being played with at a "former" soviet bioweapons outfit that has received assistance from the US Government to "convert to peaceful purposes"... yet they were still playing with the stuff in 2004 and the story only got out because a scientist there pricked her finger and was killed by Ebola.
Nope, nothing suspicious here. This idea is certainly the stuff for kooks and unibomber types.
Wow....that's some seriously twisted logic. Especially in a day and age when terrorists might release viruses etc. and it would be a good idea to have a vaccine or cure prepared. That a researched died from the disease is a huge huge leap that they created it and are unleashing it on Africa.
Again, how many girls had the vaccine and did not get the "mystery illness"? It appears, from what I can find, that none of them were truly sick, and all recovered.
Your first instinct is to vehemently defend the vaccine, no matter what. Why is that? The commonality that the teenagers who came down with this "mystery illness" all share is that they were recently vaccinated against HPV. It would be like if 320 in a town of 6,270 people became sick and we found out that they all ate melon from the same farm. Not everyone who ate the melon became sick but everyone who became sick ate the melon. It's common sense and it is more likely the cause fo the illness then "Mass psychogenic illness".
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Would you be as concerned if the Syrian incident involved an antibiotic rather than a vaccine? The fact that a vaccine was involved is irrelevant, but don't pass up an opportunity to place measles vaccine in a bad light, eh?
My point had less to do with the vaccine then with the outcome which is a deep distrust in third world countries of western medical campaigns. When bad things like this happen, it adds to the fear and distrust of western health officials. You're the one misunderstanding my point because you are way too focused on the vaccine.
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What do you not understand about the measles vaccine not being the culprit in the deaths in Syria? It was either due to accidental administration of a potent muscle relaxant or deliberate sabotage of the vaccine, though I tend to doubt the latter. Why introduce this incident and a story about "mystery illness" in Columbia into a discussion about Ebola in West Africa other than just to bash vaccines?
Again, you're misunderstanding my point. See above for clarification on this.
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The people resisting efforts to combat the Ebola outbreak are highly unlikely to have any knowledge of "mystery illness" in Columbia or the events in Syria.
Another person who believes that the African people are complete morons and have no knowledge about the outside world. Is that racist???
You got your info from Rense.com? A place that thinks chemtrails and black helicopters are real. The one place for of conspiracy that makes David Icke's shape shifting lizard people look rational in comparison! I loved their piece republished from Alex Jones about cyborg elves taking over the US in 2009.
And you've only got silly sidetracking for your argument.
But if you don't believe rich, powerful and ruthless men scheme to become even more rich and powerful you're welcome to believe that. It's a safer world, so long as you never get stepped on.
But that doesn't work for everyone. Especially when unmarked black helicopters are real:
... You only need a helicopter and black paint to make one, so why couldn't someone doing shady stuff operate an aircraft without markings?
Chemtrails are more debatable but you might be surprised to find out scientists have put forward the hypothesis that the weather can be manipulated and (somewhat) controlled through high altitude aerosol spraying of certain particulates (particularly aluminum). It's also interesting that abnormally high levels of aluminum have been detected in many US soil samples and that our US Air Force has purchased tons of the stuff... not to mention that weird weather like the freakishly bad Southwest US droughts, F5 tornados in the midwest and the eastern Polar Vortex are common events on the news but bad Hurricanes hitting the continental US virtually every year are conspicuously absent.
Your first instinct is to vehemently defend the vaccine, no matter what. Why is that? The commonality that the teenagers who came down with this "mystery illness" all share is that they were recently vaccinated against HPV. It would be like if 320 in a town of 6,270 people became sick and we found out that they all ate melon from the same farm. Not everyone who ate the melon became sick but everyone who became sick ate the melon. It's common sense and it is more likely the cause fo the illness then "Mass psychogenic illness".
My point had less to do with the vaccine then with the outcome which is a deep distrust in third world countries of western medical campaigns. When bad things like this happen, it adds to the fear and distrust of western health officials. You're the one misunderstanding my point because you are way too focused on the vaccine.
Again, you're misunderstanding my point. See above for clarification on this.
Another person who believes that the African people are complete morons and have no knowledge about the outside world. Is that racist???
Get back to us when they find out what the "mystery illness" actually was and connect it causally to the vaccine.
I can understand the distrust some of the communities might have for Western medicine. Your selection of two incidents, both involving vaccines, which have nothing to do with West Africa, is what I object to.
What I said was "The people resisting efforts to combat the Ebola outbreak are highly unlikely to have any knowledge of 'mystery illness' in Columbia or the events in Syria."
It takes quite a leap to interpret that to mean " ... the African people are complete morons and have no knowledge about the outside world."
Perhaps you think that everyone in Sierra Leone has access to a computer?
And you've only got silly sidetracking for your argument.
Nope, getting information from a lunatic is a great sign it's wrong
Even if it was right one would need to validate it somewhere else. Which you haven't.
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But if you don't believe rich, powerful and ruthless men scheme to become even more rich and powerful you're welcome to believe that. It's a safer world, so long as you never get stepped on.
But that doesn't work for everyone. Especially when unmarked black helicopters are real:
... You only need a helicopter and black paint to make one, so why couldn't someone doing shady stuff operate an aircraft without markings?
Chemtrails are more debatable but you might be surprised to find out scientists have put forward the hypothesis that the weather can be manipulated and (somewhat) controlled through high altitude aerosol spraying of certain particulates (particularly aluminum). It's also interesting that abnormally high levels of aluminum have been detected in many US soil samples and that our US Air Force has purchased tons of the stuff... not to mention that weird weather like the freakishly bad Southwest US droughts, F5 tornados in the midwest and the eastern Polar Vortex are common events on the news but bad Hurricanes hitting the continental US virtually every year are conspicuously absent.
But that is a conspiracy for anther day...
Nope, not for another day, but it is more signs one is talking to a mental patient. Have fun!
Wow....that's some seriously twisted logic. Especially in a day and age when terrorists might release viruses etc. and it would be a good idea to have a vaccine or cure prepared. That a researched died from the disease is a huge huge leap that they created it and are unleashing it on Africa.
Like I said, I hope to be proven wrong. Unleashing a disease that will ultimately kill millions of people is a crime on par with the Holocaust. The greatest difference is how much easier it would be to hide the evidence and deny it.
But rather than just laugh off the suggestion and ignore the possible connections, we sure as hell better be checking. After all, the actual holocaust started out as a secret conspiracy too, and our grandaddies swore they wouldn't EVER let it happen again.
Nope, getting information from a lunatic is a great sign it's wrong
Even if it was right one would need to validate it somewhere else. Which you haven't.
Nope, not for another day, but it is more signs one is talking to a mental patient. Have fun!
Yep, insults, insult and even more insults but nothing constructive to say. Hope you aren't planning on giving up your day job and becoming a professional debater because... *ahem*, it just ain't your thing, honey.
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