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Old 09-29-2014, 10:04 AM
 
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Not all Muslims are violent extremists, but the overwhelming majority of violent extremists are sure as hell Muslim. And we're not even talking about a few hundred or a few thousand, but MILLIONS.

And I seriously don't understand how people can still defend Muslims when these people continually cause death and destruction against Muslims and non-Muslims alike on a daily basis. And even those that aren't as extreme also cause trouble by coming out and protesting and getting angry everytime someone does or says something that supposedly offends their effed up religion.

There is literally NOTHING you can do to appease these people who are eternally angry and so easily offendable short of becoming a Muslim yourself.
And? I will defend non-extremist Muslims because they're.....non extremists. Duh. And oh yes, I have dated muslims & am friends with muslims. See how that works?

 
Old 09-29-2014, 10:20 AM
 
Location: wake forest nc
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Hmm. If it were such a threat to western culture, you would think we would have seen that after 1400 years. The theat to western culture (and every other culture) is greed, not religion. CEOs are the real enemy, not the mullahs. Extremist religion is just where angry people go when hope is gone. Muslim terror would find no traction in a middle east where there is employment, freedom, and opportunity for young people.
Because the moment Islam stopped being an immediate threat to Europe, at the end of the seventeenth century, liberalism was born, after which it gradually became the dominant European ideology. And according to liberalism differences between groups do not matter or should not matter, because all men have the same universal nature and the same universal rights. Feeling safe and secure, Europe dropped into the memory hole the history of Islam and Europe’s thousand-year struggle to defend itself from Islam (just as happened to Communism and the Cold War after the fall of the Soviet Union). By the late eighteenth century, barely a hundred years after the Muslim armies were driven back from Vienna, and barely a hundred years after John Locke wrote his Second Essay on Government, the secularist skeptic Edward Gibbon in his extremely influential Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire was sounding the same pro-Islam, anti-Christianity notes that are the norm today. Gibbon had no notion that Islam, then moribund, might once again arise and threaten Europe.

Islam's 1,400 year long war against the West

Your talk of angry people, hope, greed, are all emotion based feelings Liberals are famous for. Your solutions are all feel good happy stuff. We can solve it if we just share. You refuse to understand there are gradations of historical truths that are learned at a high price and when lost, or ignored, barbarism prevails and the horror that brings puts into perspective your childish and I will add, peevish insights.
I assume you are aware of the 100 million deaths from collectivist thinking. Also read up on the cultural Marxist Antonio Gramsci. You can see how the cultural lefts stealth campaigns have corrupted our institutions. Islam is doing exactly the same under our insane PC culture. The examples are everywhere. You make the mistake of not understanding Islam is a totalitarian ideology, worse than the Nazi's and I would add communism. Your juvenile people all are the same view reminds me of PM Baldwin and Chamberlain who could have save 70 million lives before WWII.
 
Old 09-29-2014, 10:26 AM
 
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You can't pronounce "diversity" without "die" after all!
Has O said 'If you like your head, you can keep your head' yet? Once he does you can be sure of a rash of beheadings.
 
Old 09-29-2014, 10:29 AM
 
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You cannot run from your enemies, you must meet them "head on".

The George Bush theme song -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evfeA-hvQdk
 
Old 09-29-2014, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Because the moment Islam stopped being an immediate threat to Europe, at the end of the seventeenth century, liberalism was born, after which it gradually became the dominant European ideology. And according to liberalism differences between groups do not matter or should not matter, because all men have the same universal nature and the same universal rights. Feeling safe and secure, Europe dropped into the memory hole the history of Islam and Europe’s thousand-year struggle to defend itself from Islam (just as happened to Communism and the Cold War after the fall of the Soviet Union). By the late eighteenth century, barely a hundred years after the Muslim armies were driven back from Vienna, and barely a hundred years after John Locke wrote his Second Essay on Government, the secularist skeptic Edward Gibbon in his extremely influential Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire was sounding the same pro-Islam, anti-Christianity notes that are the norm today. Gibbon had no notion that Islam, then moribund, might once again arise and threaten Europe.

Islam's 1,400 year long war against the West

Your talk of angry people, hope, greed, are all emotion based feelings Liberals are famous for. Your solutions are all feel good happy stuff. We can solve it if we just share. You refuse to understand there are gradations of historical truths that are learned at a high price and when lost, or ignored, barbarism prevails and the horror that brings puts into perspective your childish and I will add, peevish insights.
I assume you are aware of the 100 million deaths from collectivist thinking. Also read up on the cultural Marxist Antonio Gramsci. You can see how the cultural lefts stealth campaigns have corrupted our institutions. Islam is doing exactly the same under our insane PC culture. The examples are everywhere. You make the mistake of not understanding Islam is a totalitarian ideology, worse than the Nazi's and I would add communism. Your juvenile people all are the same view reminds me of PM Baldwin and Chamberlain who could have save 70 million lives before WWII.
Nice try. But you are wrong nonetheless. Nazism, communism, Muslim extremism are all one and the same. Long-suffering people trying to throw off the the yoke of oppression of the wealthy and powerful is the root cause of it all. A true student of human history realizes that it can all be condensed to only two themes: greed and the conflict between the oppressors and the oppressed.
 
Old 09-29-2014, 10:31 AM
 
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You cannot run from your enemies, you must meet them "head on".

The George Bush theme song -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evfeA-hvQdk
The Bushes are Chump Chimp.

http://www.the-scientist.com//?artic...le/Handy-Apes/
 
Old 09-29-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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To be honest, I am far more concerned with school shootings by deranged kids who have unfettered access to guns.
What kids? Then you must feel pretty safe...

Far as I can tell, since 1949 there have only been 3 shooter that have been under the age of 18, 2 were in the same shooting...


The rest have been "of age."

25 Deadliest Mass Shootings in U.S. History Fast Facts - CNN.com
 
Old 09-29-2014, 10:39 AM
 
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Tinman says
The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful. He mistakenly assumes all Religions are equal. His bias is as common as it is deadly. Here is part of the an article Andrew C. McCarthy wrote after the Boston bombings.

Our enemies’ ideology is Islamic supremacism. To challenge and defeat an ideological movement, you have to understand and confront their vision of the world. Imposing your own assumptions and biases will not do. Islamic supremacists do not see a world of Westphalian nation-states. They do not distinguish between Russia and America the way they distinguish between Muslims and non-Muslims. Their ideology frames matters as Dar al-Islam versus Dar al-Harb: the realm of Islam in a fight to the death against the realm of war — which is everyone and everyplace else.

The fact that you think this is nuts, or that I’m nuts for saying it out loud, has nothing to do with whether they believe it. They do — and they don’t care, even a little, what you think.
You do not defeat an ideology by hoping it will change or disappear. You have to challenge it, to make it defend its baleful tenets in the light of day. You cannot protect yourself from its violent outbursts absent understanding its teaching, reluctantly accepting that its teaching will inevitably lead some Muslims to strike out savagely, and committing to a pro-active, intelligence-based counterterrorism strategy — one that scraps political correctness and ferrets out the jihadists before they strike.
McCarthy didn't make the point that not all Muslims are Islam supremacists????
 
Old 09-29-2014, 10:42 AM
 
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Allah and the mohammatards would be proud!
Allah is just a foreign language word for GOD. And Muslims worship the God of Abraham. The same God that Christians and Jews worship.

Mohammed would have this man be punished for his crime against an innocent woman.
 
Old 09-29-2014, 10:45 AM
 
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Allah is just a foreign language word for GOD. And Muslims worship the God of Abraham. The same God that Christians and Jews worship.

Mohammed would have this man be punished for his crime against an innocent woman.
Thain't much nature in the desert, so they created God.
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