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Old 09-30-2014, 08:43 AM
 
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You're thinking Old Testament (Jewish). Not New Testament, Christian.
And Islam didn't exist 2000 years ago.
The Old Testament and the New Testament are studied by Christians. And Christians very much followed the Old Testament at the time of Christianity's inception.

Much of the Q'ran is based on the Old Testament.
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:52 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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The Old Testament and the New Testament are studied by Christians. And Christians very much followed the Old Testament at the time of Christianity's inception.

Much of the Q'ran is based on the Old Testament.
Changes nothing I said.
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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All of the monsters that condone this law will never gain my respect until they stop. I consider them more pest than people and believe they should be treated as such whenever they damage or threaten the civilized society.
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:04 AM
 
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Changes nothing I said.
It actually does.

Your statement was to distinguish Christianity from punishments and practices outlined in the Old Testament. My point was that Christianity, and especially Fundamentalist versions of Christianity, do believe in and follow the Old Testament.

Your further remark, that Islam came along much later than the Old Testament, is pointless, given that much of Islam is based on the Old Testament.

All three, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, are ALL based on the teachings and God of Abraham.
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:09 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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It actually does.

Your statement was to distinguish Christianity from punishments and practices outlined in the Old Testament. My point was that Christianity, and especially Fundamentalist versions of Christianity, do believe in and follow the Old Testament.

Your further remark, that Islam came along much later than the Old Testament, is pointless, given that much of Islam is based on the Old Testament.

All three, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, are ALL based on the teachings and God of Abraham.
No, it doesn't.

Christianity was a new practice 2000 years ago and many were killed for it. They weren't following Jewish law.

Islam may have some background from the OT but have their own completely different holy book.

You are trying very hard to reach.

Below is what I originally responded to, which was a largely incorrect assumption.
If you really want to keep arguing the topic further, perhaps you should visit the religion forum.

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Difference between the West and there now; they "literally" practice what their book says, which was probably exactly how it was done w/ Christianity & Islam 2000 years ago.
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:21 AM
 
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No, it doesn't.

Christianity was a new practice 2000 years ago and many were killed for it. They weren't following Jewish law.

Islam may have some background from the OT but have their own completely different holy book.

You are trying very hard to reach.
Much of the Q'ran is lifted straight from the Old Testament. That was one of the reasons for the tension between Jews and Mohammed. Mohammed "borrowed" heavily from the Old Testament, when the Jewish tribes living in and near Mecca pointed it out, Mohammed was enraged. He was the Prophet, and these practices, stories, and scripture came directly to him from God. The Jews felt obligated to point out that God had given directly to them these same practices, stories and scripture. And Mohammed felt that the Jews were challenging him and his interpretation of God's word, and became set on destroying the Jewish tribes. He was largely successful in this.

Christianity is based on the worship of Jesus Christ, who was a Jew. Jesus Christ didn't repudiate Judaism, he simply preached a softer, more loving version of Judaism.
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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You're thinking Old Testament (Jewish). Not New Testament, Christian.
And Islam didn't exist 2000 years ago.
Nope - your wrong.
The place of the Old Testament was defined very early in Christian centuries
Who cares when it began(Islam) but it was around 610 AD. Your missing my point.
Both these religions have prophets, angels, God, the same stuff. The same "throwing
stones". While I think it is barbaric, if one is to follow a religion based upon the
"book" then you either believe all of that, or you don't.

Maybe that is why Christians have been waiting so long for the second coming
They've changed what's in the book so much...Or maybe "all of it" is just a bunch of stuff
that gives folks an excuse to hate, or love, and stone each other....
So many awful things in the bible done out of "love".

If you are going to say you believe in something, and then pick out all the things
you don't like, you don't belong there in the first place. Just think how many agnostics,
atheists there really would be in the world, if folks were honest with themselves about
what they actually believe from "those books" supposedly divinely written

I always think, why would anyone believe crazy **** folks wrote down from so
long ago. They were ignorant in the life sciences, brutal, and frankly, more than just
a little "off".
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:36 AM
 
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Originally Posted by sxrckr View Post

Below is what I originally responded to, which was a largely incorrect assumption.
If you really want to keep arguing the topic further, perhaps you should visit the religion forum.
Perhaps you should, since you obviously do not know the history of either Islam or Christianity.
Maybe start with eastern orthodox, as in the Greek Orthodox Church.

At least my "opinion" about "stoning" is based on its barbaric and brutal nature. Not on where it originated from, which is "fact". A fact, a modern day Christian may not want to accept. BTW, I would not blame you.
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Stoning goes back to the Old Testament. And whether we like it or not that they go back to the
stone age, it's their religion. No different than Christianity back then.

Difference between the West and there now; they "literally" practice what their book says, which was
probably exactly how it was done w/ Christianity & Islam 2000 years ago.

IMO, you either believe that **** or you don't. I don't, and anyone on this thread criticing,
should probably be an atheist...
I r one. And if I hear about Christians-majority countries stoning people to death in the name of their superstition I'll criticize them too. Except...I don't hear about them. Why is that? Some MSM conspiracy?
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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It will be here faster than you know it.

Somali militants stone woman to death
Such a peaceful religion
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